Created  Aug. 1, 2018                                                 

   Truth is my business!            Hoaxtead Watch No. #17

The Mansfield Ohio Satanic Cult - Part 2 of 3

53:00 Check out that book, "Programmed to Kill" by David McGowan. T1: Tom really praised every aspect of this book. I just placed an order for it, used, on Amazon. << Human trafficking cases, to serial killer cases. Tom mentions Geraldo doing this big expose, on what I assume is the McMartin case or something near to it in scope. Tom did not specify what it was, but said it was 20 years ago and that its on youtube and exposed most aspects well. Russ: Agreed!

54:00 Russ addressing fraternity guys who might be listening in: "If you have little brother or sister that actually got raped, something actually happened to them, What would you do? Is there any outrage at all? That is the question."

56:00 I watched the film today, Daniel, and it brought me to tears. >>Someone responds in the chat room at this point.<< In regards to the question above at 54:00 latter part. What would you do?   Chat person responds, "I'd probably beat the hell out of them." Then he says, "emotion must be separated from reason." Russ says you can't do that.

T1: I agree with Russ, and "Chat" but I will explain it with precise distinction. Our emotional reactions are controlled by our instinct. They are automatic. But as we develop in life we can form "brakes" like those on a car, to hold or stop feelings and emotions to some degree so that we might further consider them when time is better afforded, without offending someone unreasonably. Emotions are natural and instinctive, but they can also be an overkill in some situations. So we learn to hold it back and consider it a bit later. Some psychologists call these "executive functions." At great extremes, we might block out feelings of guilt if we decide to go against our instinct/conscience and rape or kill or steal. Blocking things out can cause a lot inner turmoil, guilt and conflict. It is never wise or healthy or even moral, to go against what we know to be right or feel is right. We call it a conscience.

Mature, well developed, and integrated, intellectual and emotional capacities, will be integrated and act in unison and consistency. So progress into adulthood does allow some temporary withholding of emotions, to give the situation they came up in, more consideration, to see if there might be better way than the knee-jerk instinctive reaction that tried to come up and out.

The instinct is a somewhat primitive, built-in, automatic reaction to get us past infancy, childhood to the point near to about 23 say some sources, while others suggest 30 or so, whereby the intellect can select better strategies for certain situations. That is to say, the instinct can be retrained to some degree in non-traumatic events so as to have better results for things we encounter as adults. But many adults never reach the point where they bother to ponder natural reactions and see if there is not a better way, keeping the emotions in check, till the analysis has been finished.

An example: we were insulted and wanted to bash the person in the head. But we waited and decided that jail time and a record were not such good ideas and that we might also lose the battle, and that perhaps, since this guy has influence at work, that we might just want to consider avoiding this person as much as possible. Or it might be a situation that justified moral outrage and us doing something careful and constructive about it rather than becoming violent and out of control.

So I agree both parties to some degree. We can separate, with limits, emotions from reason, allowing reason to make the final decision. But Russ is also correct in that the emotions, especially concerning trauma, are not within our control. An example of an emotion we can work on, and control over time, is say, jealousy or envy, 2 very powerful emotions. But we will not do that overnight. It will take persistence and effort to overcome it.

It we lived in ideal circumstances, farming communities, where the townspeople were the police, judges, court, and executioner all in one. That is how it should be. Handled as soon as it occurs, normally, in day time, on the spot. But when the government wanted control of everything, fearing the citizens as an enemy, rather than an ally, took great measure to slander and vilify a community policing itself. The media of the time also joined the government. They called it Mob justice, Vigilantism in a negative way.

But what it really was, was not allowing bureaucrats to cover over and corrupt law, something the love to do, since all government bureaucrats are criminals and Satan devotees, I might add. Never doubt it! So only appointed (controlled) judges and lawyers could administrate law. How is that for Satanic. We know that a child need help in caring for itself in its very early years. but we would expect that in most things, teens and certainly adults, could take care of their person hygiene. What a disgrace if a man needed diapers and someone to change them.

So it is with justice. The people should have to care for their own matters of justice and law and not leave it to others. Justice is everyone's responsibility at all times. We got everything backwards, just like the devil likes it! << T1 end

 We will now start at . . .

58:00 . . . How will we react to evil, asks Russ? He describes a little girl raped, used, for several days and then buried alive to die.  A cop could want to kill. But it must be resisted, even if the law is weak and pathetic in such circumstances. Russ: I watched officers nearly throw up and convulse when a black boy was run over by a train.

59:00 They picked up an arm here, a head there, a leg somewhere else. They had to try to act professional and do their job. "Don't tell me it does not affect their emotions.!"      If some of these criminals like Dahmer had been stopped earlier, less people would have died.

1:00:00 and if the adult women and other individuals down there infiltrating the Presbyterian church (in Mansfield) during the sexual abuse that Daniel made a documentary film of, himself a victim of that secret infiltration and abuse, he could have been spared had these people acted more moral and considerate. His anger came out what was done to him. Russ asked for a link from Daniel that others might go to see or get info about the film. If it comes up, I'll put it in where it comes up.

T1: This was broadcast in 2013. It turns out that Tom Dunn on this interview, was "Daniel." Tom lived in Ohio or Mansfield and was a victim of the cult invasion and its trial in court. The name of the film is "Detestable, the Film," or just Detestable. Sadly, it costs $20 at present and its my gut instinct to recoil at money require when involving very serious matters of extreme crimes. Victims have a right to be heard, and those odds drastically shrink when you require a fee to allow it to be heard. I know that there expenses were involved. I personally refuse to require money. For messages such as this, I fear God judgment, after all He as allowed me to understand, including the responsibility for helping victims of Satan and his followers.

Were Tom to Allow the viewing for say the cost of the DVD, with the option to pay the fee if it were truly informative, would be more in keeping with the cause and concern. I do not ever reserve copyrights on anything I do. And when it comes to justice, only "free" will do. I spend most of my time and labor on this stuff. I do virtually nothing else. As an example of benevolence, I cite Brice Taylor (Susan Ford, born Susan Eckart), a mind control victim of extreme degrees, offers her book for free to read and it you like it, then she asks that you might consider paying the asking fee.

I got it for $40 I think. It had been $60. It is the most important book ever made on the subject of CIA Mind Control programing. So she is a good example of being charitable but also admitting a need for money. Former mind control slaves can have their problems getting jobs. Brice and Kathleen Sullivan are really the only 2 authors you will ever need to read and know, to gain an amazing understanding of the whole scope of mind control.

I did note a comment in the last few nights (from Aug 1, 2018) on HX indicating certain people as frauds in regard to them being victims of abuse and trafficking, noting that they have little to relate of their experience. Lightning might strike me later, but I agree with them on this point. I think most now who claim abuse are "sent out" and given attention to pass off frauds to eventually discredit abuse victims. Hence, read Brice Taylor or Kathleen Sullivan as the only 2 that are 100% authentic and from these two, you can smell the lies of others. I do recommend anything by Daniel Ryder. I might have to make a list of good accounts and maybe suggest frauds, too.

One other problem is that mind control victims not fully recovered can be confusing or uncertain. As well, even those recovered for the most part, might still have an attitude. With some much accumulated for so long, full complete healing is not realistic. Kathleen Sullivan talked about this problem. At some point you want get on with your life, and having to relive painful traumas could take fare more time than most have in a lifetime. So at some point, they feel well enough to move on and live, though feelings will resonate at times. << T1 end

1:01:00 Tom is in the thick of it down in Mansfield. I have no question that Tom and I met at God's providence, connecting us. Happened at the Presbyterian church, involves up to 50 kids, on the very least, sexually abused, at the very most, it involved the Satanic side of things. Don't people want to help these kids? To be willing to listen to their story? Go to the places? Hear the stuff? . . .

1:02:00 Don't you want to see perpetrators stopped so that they don't do it to anyone else? On the case of the Presbyterian church, how many adults were involved? Maybe Daniel in the chat room can answer, too. How many adults were accused or gone after? Tom: According to the testimonies of the parents and the children, there were at least 18 more church members that they wanted to indict. But the jury came in and decided not to indict them. I want to mention also . . .

1:03:00 . . . that I heard an interview with the psychiatrist who interviewed the children, and he just kind of explains the reasons why he believed the children and why they were telling the truth. And another thing that was not a rumor was when it was made public that this man sided with the children, that he found dead birds around his office. So there is some retaliation here (T1:intimidation!), from this coven that is working here. You know, when you talk about the victims and you talk about just being emotional, we were there a few weeks ago for the testimony of someone just sharing what had happened and to look into that person's face, right there, you knew they were telling the truth.

1:04:00 And we as Christians, we can have the spiritual gift of discernment, but as human beings we can have/read body language, and tell, you know. Not all the time. We can be fooled. But we can tell when somebody is lying to us or telling us the truth. There are more victims out here and more in Mansfield. We want to reach them. See them ministered to. See them delivered (to God). Healed! And integrated (in the mind) or whatever it is.

T1: while adults might be able to fool us on rare occasions, if one is well read and informed, it will not be much or often. But children are not sophisticated liars. They are not even good actors when young. Hollywood is always on the look out for kids who look a lot young than their age. I was one of those. I looked 3 years young than I was. It ran on my mother's side of the family. But by having kids look about 3 years younger, casting agents could get the need acting skills and still have the young looks. Kids will not be the great actors and certainly not be good at making up detailed accounts of things. These would be adults skills only.

Yet Hoaxtead insists that kids are great orators and thru master mind "suggestion" programming, the genius Abraham was able to produce amazing results so very convincing. Now if you believe that, then I got pot of gold hidden that I could sell ya the directions to, and you could be rich. I'm too old to carry all those gold bars out.

Listen, not insult to Abraham, but for him to have believed that he could get justice, thru the police, when the kids made it quite clear that the police were in on it as well social services, and he takes them to the police? Not exactly genius material. That in promoting and defending the cause of the two stolen children, he goes off on a hemp campaign? A short attention span, at the least.

No, I think 2 kids were very convincing, which is why RD has had so much trouble making anyone other then the press, believe the kids were lying or programmed. The kids were solid, 100% authentic and Abraham was not a genius programmer and I don't believe in his supposed "suggestion" programming, either. That was a very poor attempt by RD to convince us of a new programming technique. Not much doubt that he is a liar. But for sure, he is no good at lying. << T1 end

And there are more perpetrators out there and we want to reach them, too. Russ: lets relook at all the case. I've looked at a number of cases now, over the last 30 years. Some of them are just kind of shut down, kind of like this one.

1:05:00 Grand jury shuts it all down. And other weird things go on. Reports of ministers, psychiatrists. There was a lot of fear going around. And a lot of worries. What we also need to be able to say is, what else can we find at this point? What else can we find? Past other victims? Does anyone know anything more? Did they run out of money regarding investigators, going and tracking and nailing down evidence, and looking up these things? Don't forget in law enforcement there is the concept of corroborating evidence. So we want to look at all of it. And we are going to look at you in the chat rooms to night, you from all over who might have experience or ideas to chime in on this.

1:06:00 We're just asking you to pray for uncontested evidence. ( T1: I'm skipping to 1:08:00 )

1:08:00  2 powerful layers concerning secrecy.  Physical secrecy like the Mafia, the drug lords, human trafficking of all types, all over. If we engage that, we will go after that. Whatever it takes. We ask for your prayers.

1:09:00 Tom: What we are investigating in Mansfield is connected to other crimes all over Ohio. Ohio is saturated with Satanic crimes. And so are the surrounding states.  ( T1:The American heartland, I assume: Pennsylvania, Indiana, Illinois, for starters).

1:10:00 If we can get a lead here, we grow that out around here and spread it. It often starts with rumors.

1:11:00  2 Thessalonians: 2

NKJV 2 Thessalonians: 2

1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you,¶
2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.¶
3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition,¶
4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.¶
5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?¶
6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time.¶
7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.¶
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.¶
9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,¶
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.¶
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,¶
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

I have developed a few ideas after transcribing this radio show. I like to watch the old TV shows that I was too young to be interested in. Perry Mason, Twilight Zone, Alfred Hitchcock. Also Westerns, Batman, Star Trek and more. I recognize voices and faces and wonder who was in what, the span of their career and who they were in sum total. What you might not know are the many interesting things you turn up. Lots of possible scandals of all types.

I Believe there are bound to be some very suspicious events and circumstances to uncover. Brice Taylor mentioned many things about Hollywood and what she saw and was aware of. I believe I can find some serious Satanic sacrifices and a good deal more, maybe. We know much more now about how cults and Hollywood work. It should be no big deal to reinvestigate the past, having the benefit of hindsight, that was not there in the late 50s and on into the 60s and later. I have a few saved up, already. Got two really big cases to unload, too. There are going to be sparks and fireworks. Its just a matter of time. If more can be revealed from the past, the more it will verify the present.

But up next will be the newspaper articles and the court decision on the Mansfield Cult Case. and then, the next blog after explores some more Presbyterian dealings that become very interesting. You will not want to miss it!

Unless your initials are HX or RD. I'm just saying.


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