Created  Jun. 1, 2013                             updated Dec 12 2014

5 Jehovah's Witnesses' Heresies

(And they are not really Jehovah's witnesses. They witness for the devil, just like the rest of Christendom.)

 


Sub-headings:

1 THE SADDUCEES QUESTION TO JESUS

YOU ARE MISTAKEN BECAUSE. . .

GOD'S ORIGINAL PURPOSE

QUESTIONS FROM READERS

CONCLUSION

2 OUR MEDIATOR

SOMETHING MISSED BEFORE

3 JESUS'  “PRESENCE”

THE SECOND COMING

ITS ALL GREEK TO ME

THE WAY IT IS

CONCLUSION

4 1914 RE-EXAMINED

1914'S ORIGINS

A SECOND LOOK

GREATER IMPLICATIONS?

DESOLATED FOR HOW LONG?

THE ROCKS CRY OUT

ZECHARIAH SAYS . . .

CONCLUSION

5 THE FAITHFUL & DISCREET SLAVE

PROMISES, PROMISES

THE NEW KID IN TOWN

ARE WE CONFUSED?

GET YOUR HIP BOOTS OUT

BEDTIME  FOR  BROOKLYN

SPEAKING IN TONGUES

HALLUCINATIONS?


My Last Thoughts

6 The 2014 Examination of the Anti-Christ Doctrine      -NEW-


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I wrote these in 1988, in the midst of a very hot summer for Maine as well as the USA. I printed them out and had a printer print out booklets, totaling 4 in all. I created a supposed organization, which I called Bible Research. I did this so that JWs would have someone or some place to turn to, so they would not be left out in the cold. I spent my entire bonus money from my job, $500, to do this, so I could legitimately say I did all I could do to reach and help them. Several families did eventually leave due to my efforts, but as a whole, not much results. No one responded to mailings, 42 of them as I recall. I mailed them out in Dec. 1989. I did not mail out the Faithful and Discreet Slave booklet but let them know about it and to sent a request, and I would send it out for free. None ever asked for it.


THE SADDUCEES QUESTION TO JESUS

INTRODUCTION
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I MET A BROTHER FROM AMONG YOU WHO WAS GOING TO WRITE THE "WATCHTOWER SOCIETY" (GOVERNING BODY) ABOUT THIS DOCTRINAL IDEA OF PEOPLE IN THE RESURRECTION NOT MARRYING AFTERWARDS. BUT HE DECIDED NOT TO IN VIEW OF AN ANSWER THEY PUBLISHED IN THE JUNE 1ST, 1987 WATCHTOWER UNDER THE "QUESTIONS FROM READERS" COLUMN, PG. 30. HE DIDN'T SEEM TO THINK THEY WOULD LISTEN AND I THINK HE WAS RIGHT. BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS TOO GOOD TO LET GO BY SO HERE IT IS IN THE LETTER FORM THAT HE WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO SEND "BROOKLYN", UNCHANGED. MAYBE ONE OF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND IT TO THEM TO SEE THEIR REACTION. SOMETHING AS HARMLESS AS THIS DOCTRINE SURELY WOULDN'T HURT THEM IN ANY WAY, YOU WOULD THINK. BUT NONE OF YOU WANT TO SEND IT EITHER, AM I RIGHT? I WONDER WHY?

>> This was a ruse by me. I was the one that wrote that/a letter in 1985, using my cousin in Ontario to mail it to JW HQ in Brooklyn, NY, after I sent it to her. They would not reply for 2 years, and then only in print and not to me thru the address it came from.<<

THIS DOCTRINE IS A VERY IMPORTANT ONE, NONETHELESS. MAYBE THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE IN THE "ORGANIZATION." HOW SO? THIS IDEA, TO MOST YOUNG PEOPLE, AND MANY ADULTS TOO, SEEMS NOT LIKE A HOPE OR PROMISE BUT, INSTEAD, A CURSE. MOST PEOPLE, BEING HUMANS WITH NATURAL, GOD-GIVEN SEXUAL DESIRE AND A LONGING FOR MARITAL INTIMACY, WANT AND LOOK FORWARD TO EVENTUAL OR CONTINUED MARRIAGE AND VERY MUCH FEAR BEING DENIED THAT IF THEY DIE BEFORE ARMAGEDDON. AND THEY ARE SOMEWHAT UNSURE ABOUT EVEN THOSE WHO LIVE THROUGH ARMAGEDDON, BUT IN AN UNMARRIED STATE. SOME ARE NOT EVEN CERTAIN ABOUT THE FUTURE OF MARRIAGE IN ANY CIRCUMSTANCE.

THIS DOCTRINE OF THE SOCIETY'S MAKES IT SEEM LIKE JEHOVAH NEVER REALLY LIKED THE SEXUAL ARRANGEMENT THAT HE ORIGINALLY DESIGNED. BUT SUCH IS NOT THE CASE. IF YOUNG ONES AND OLD UNDERSTOOD THIS THEN THEY COULD LOOK FORWARD TO THE FUTURE WITH GREAT CONFIDENCE AND EAGER ANTICIPATION. AND IF WE WERE CALLED UPON TO DIE FOR OUR FAITH THEN WE COULD DO SO NOT FEARING WHAT WE MIGHT BE LOSING OUT ON, ON THE "OTHER SIDE OF ARMAGEDDON."

THOUGH SOME MIGHT ARGUE, I BELIEVE THAT THIS WARPED DOCTRINE HAS LED TO MANY UNCERTAIN AND HASTY MARRIAGES AS WELL AS MANY DISFELLOWSHIPPING CASES FOR SEXUAL MISCONDUCT DUE TO THE INSIDIOUS, UNMOORING EFFECT IT HAS ON PEOPLE'S VIEW OF GOD AND THE FUTURE, THEIR MARRIED, AND SEXUALLY SATISFIED FUTURE. AND NOBODY SHOULD BE ASHAMED ABOUT FEELING THIS WAY. IT IS TIME TO PUT THE MYTH TO REST AND PUT OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS OF ALL AGES TO REST AS WELL.


MATT.22:29 -     YOU ARE MISTAKEN BECAUSE . . .
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WHAT I WANT TO SHOW FROM MATTHEW 11:12-3, LUKE 16:16, AND THE THREE ACCOUNTS (IN MATTHEW 22, LUKE 20, MARK 12) OF THE SADDUCEES QUESTIONING JESUS ABOUT THE RESURRECTION ARE THE FOLLOWING:

1. THAT JESUS WAS IN FACT REFERRING TO THE PROMISE OF PEOPLE GOING TO HEAVEN TO RULE AS KINGS AND PRIESTS. SOMETHING THE SADDUCEES DID NOT UNDER STAND, HAVING KNOWN ONLY THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS AND HAVING PUT NO FAITH IN THEM.

2. THE "SYSTEM OF THINGS" IS A PLACE OF REFERENCE AND A TYPE OF EXISTENCE.

3. JESUS IS SAYING THAT THOSE RESURRECTED WILL BE ANGELS.

4. THEIR PLACE OF DWELLING WILL BE IN HEAVEN.

5. NOT ONLY DID THE SADDUCEES NOT KNOW OF THE HOPE AND MESSAGE THAT JESUS WAS PREACHING AND HOLDING OPEN TO THEM AND TO ALL BUT THAT THEY LACKED FAITH IN GOD AND THE SCRIPTURES.

6. IMMORTALITY WAS ASCRIBED TO THESE RESURRECTED ONES. THIS COULD ONLY APPLY TO THOSE OF THE FIRST RESURRECTION AND NOT TO THE EARTHLY RESURRECTED ONES WHO BELONG TO THE SECOND RESURRECTION.

WE WILL START WITH POINT #1 BY LOOKING AT THE MEANING OF MATT. 11:12-3 AND LUKE 16:16 WHICH ARE PARALLEL ACCOUNTS OF A STATEMENT MADE BY JESUS CONCERNING HIS MISSION. I WILL START WITH LUKE 16:16 FIRST.

"THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS WERE UNTIL JOHN. FROM THEN ON THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS BEING DECLARED AS GOOD NEWS, AND EVERY SORT OF PERSON IS PRESSING FORWARD TOWARD IT."  LET ME PARAPHRASE THE ITALICIZED PART SO THAT IT SOUNDS MORE LIKE THE WAY IT IS WORDED IN MATTHEW'S ACCOUNT: THIS IS THE GOAL BEING HELD OUT TO MEN WHICH THEY ARE IN TURN PURSUING, EVEN WITH GREAT STRAIN AND EFFORT.

NOW IN MATTHEW'S VERSION ONLY I AM GOING TO REVERSE THE ORDER OF 12 AND 13 TO 13 AND 12 FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING IT READ MORE LIKE THE ORDER IN LUKE'S ACCOUNT AND MAKING IT MORE UNDERSTANDABLE WITHOUT CHANGING THE MEANING IN THE PROCESS.

MATT. 22:13 "FOR ALL, THE PROPHETS AND THE LAW, PROPHESIED UNTIL JOHN;"  12 "BUT FROM THE DAYS OF JOHN THE BAPTIST UNTIL NOW THE KINGDOM OF THE HEAVENS IS THE GOAL TOWARD WHICH MEN PRESS, AND THOSE PRESSING FORWARD ARE SEIZING IT."

I AM NOT GOING TO QUOTE OTHER TRANSLATIONS HERE FOR I FEEL THAT THE MEANING IS EVIDENT FROM THESE TWO SCRIPTURES ALONE; AND THE MEANING IS THIS: THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS ARE BOTH CONTRASTED WITH THE KINGDOM OF THE HEAVENS. THEY SEEM TO HOLD OUT DIFFERENT THINGS FOR US IN OUR PURSUIT. BEING FAMILIAR WITH THE SCRIPTURES, WE KNOW THAT JESUS HELD OUT THE HOPE OF RULING AS KINGS AND PRIESTS WITH HIM IN HEAVEN WITH HIS FATHER AND THIS WAS THE MESSAGE OF SPECIAL PRIVILEGE HELD OUT TO THE JEWS HE MET.

THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS HELD OUT THE HOPE OF RISING AGAIN HERE ON EARTH. WE KNOW THAT AND THAT IS THE WAY THE SADDUCEES UNDERSTOOD IT, TOO.

AS THE 2 SCRIPTURES SHOWED, THE HOPE HELD OUT BY THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS WAS CHANGED WITH THE COMING OF JOHN THE BAPTIST TO PREPARE THE WAY FOR JESUS. FROM THIS POINT ONWARD, JESUS DECLARED THE KINGDOM OF THE HEAVENS TO PEOPLE RATHER THAN THE HOPE OF AN EARTHLY RESURRECTION.

THE PROBLEM ALREADY TOUCHED UPON WAS THAT THE SADDUCEES UNDERSTOOD IT TO BE AN EARTHLY RESURRECTION AS HELD OUT BY THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS. THIS WAS THE FIRST PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT JESUS HAD TO CORRECT. PERHAPS NOT SO MUCH FOR THE SADDUCEES AND THEIR IGNORANCE OF THE NEW SPECIAL PRIVILEGE THAT JESUS WAS OFFERING TO ALL THE JEWS BUT FOR THE SAKE OF THOSE LISTENING TO ALL THIS GOING ON.

THE OTHER PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT JESUS WANTED TO CORRECT AND REPROVE WAS THEIR LACK OF FAITH IN GOD AND HIS ABILITY AND INTENTION TO RESURRECT AS WAS CLEARLY SHOWN IN THE SCRIPTURES.

I THINK MY REASONING IS SOUND IN SHOWING 1. THAT JESUS WAS IN FACT REFERRING TO THE PROMISE OF PEOPLE GOING TO HEAVEN TO RULE AS KINGS AND PRIESTS. SOMETHING THE SADDUCEES DID NOT UNDER STAND HAVING KNOWN ONLY THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS AND HAVING PUT NO FAITH IN THEM.

NOW TO REVIEW WHAT TOOK PLACE BETWEEN JESUS AND THE SADDUCEES. LETS EXAMINE THIS ACCOUNT FIRST IN THE BOOK OF LUKE. THIS IS THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION'S VERSION OF LUKE 20:34-6:

"THE CHILDREN OF THIS SYSTEM OF THINGS MARRY AND ARE GIVEN IN MARRIAGE, 35 BUT THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN COUNTED WORTHY OF GAINING THAT SYSTEM OF THINGS AND THE RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD NEITHER MARRY NOR ARE GIVEN IN MARRIAGE. 36 IN FACT, NEITHER CAN THEY DIE ANYMORE, FOR THEY ARE LIKE THE ANGELS, AND THEY ARE GOD'S CHILDREN BY BEING CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION."

I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS POINT #2, THAT "SYSTEM  OF THINGS" REFERS TO 2 CONTRASTING PLACES NOT TIMES. THEY MIGHT EVEN BE INDICATIVE OF 2 CONTRASTING EXISTENCES ALSO.

THE GREEK WORD FOR WHICH WE TRANSLATE TO "SYSTEM OF THINGS" IS TYPICALLY TRANSLATED IN OTHER BIBLE VERSIONS AS "AGE" OR "WORLD."  I THINK "SYSTEM OF THINGS" IS A VERY GOOD CHOICE OF WORDS FOR TRANSLATING THE MEANING OF THE ORIGINAL GREEK WORD SINCE THE ARCHAIC USE OF "AGE" DOES NOT WORK IN THE MODERN ENGLISH OF OUR DAY. BUT WORLD ALSO WORKS WELL AND DOES A GOOD JOB OF CONVEYING THE ORIGINAL IDEA.

LIDDELL AND SCOTT'S GREEK ENGLISH LEXICON SUGGESTS THAT THIS ORIGINAL GREEK WORD (AION) COULD MEAN AMONG OTHER THINGS, TYPE OF LIFE, ONE'S LOT IN LIFE, OR ONE'S DESTINY. YES, WHAT IS IN STORE FOR SOMEONE.

SO I PROPOSE THAT THE GREEK WORD "AION" JESUS USED WAS TO CONTRAST 2 WAYS OF LIFE, 2 DIFFERENT TYPES OF EXISTENCE, 2 DIFFERENT PLACES OR LOCATIONS SO TO SPEAK. 2 DIFFERENT WORLDS AS SUGGESTED BY MANY TRANSLATIONS.

I AM GOING TO SHOW YOU HOW SOME OTHER BIBLES PHRASE THIS PASSAGE IN LUKE 20:34-5.

THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE: "THE PEOPLE OF THIS WORLD AND PRESENT AGE MARRY AND ARE GIVEN IN MARRIAGE; 35 BUT THOSE WHO ARE CONSIDERED WORTHY TO GAIN THAT OTHER WORLD AND THAT FUTURE AGE AND TO ATTAIN TO THE RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD NEITHER MARRY NOR ARE GIVEN IN MARRIAGE."

MOFFATT'S TRANSLATION, THE JERUSALEM BIBLE, BYINGTON'S TRANSLATION, THE KING JAMES AUTHORIZED VERSION, AN AMERICAN TRANSLATION, DOUAY-RHIEMS VERSION, J.B. PHILLIP'S NEW TESTAMENT IN MODERN ENGLISH, AND THE NEW ENGLISH BIBLE ALL USE WORLD IN TYPICAL FASHION: CHILDREN OF THIS WORLD, PEOPLE OF THIS WORLD, OR MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS WORLD.

THE JERUSALEM BIBLE CONTINUES: "BUT THOSE WHO ARE JUDGED WORTHY OF A PLACE IN THE OTHER WORLD".

THE NEW ENGLISH BIBLE, DOUAY-RHIEMS VERSION, AN AMERICAN TRANSLATION, BYINGTON'S TRANSLATION, MOFFATT'S TRANSLATION, AND THE KING JAMES AUTHORIZED VERSION ALL READ PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

J.B. PHILLIP'S NEW TESTAMENT IN MODERN ENGLISH GOES LIKE THIS: "BUT THOSE WHO ARE CONSIDERED WORTHY OF REACHING THAT WORLD. . ." IT IS STILL QUITE SIMILAR TO THE OTHERS.

THIS CONCLUDES POINT 2. THE "SYSTEM OF THINGS" IS A PLACE OF REFERENCE AND A TYPE OF EXISTENCE.

THIS POINT #2 IS ONLY FURTHER REINFORCED AS WE GO ON TO #3,4, AND 5. LET US ADDRESS #3 WHICH DEALS WITH THE FACT THAT THE RESURRECTED ONES ARE ANGELS.

NOTICE HOW THE GREEK IS TRANSLATED IN OUR "KINGDOM INTERLINEAR TRANSLATION OF THE GREEK SCRIPTURES", VERSE 36. IT MENTIONS OF THOSE RESURRECTED: "EQUAL TO ANGELS - THEY ARE, - AND - SONS - ARE - OF GOD"

MOST OF THE TRANSLATIONS WORD IT AS "EQUAL TO THE ANGELS" WITH ONE OR TWO USING "SAME AS THE ANGELS" OR "ANGEL LIKE".

AND WHERE THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION SAYS IN LUKE: "THEY ARE GOD'S CHILDREN", THE INTERLINEAR AS MENTIONED BEFORE WORDS IT: "SONS ARE OF GOD".

THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE, AN AMERICAN TRANSLATION, THE JERUSALEM BIBLE, MOFFATT'S TRANSLATION, J.B. PHILLIP'S NEW TESTAMENT IN MODERN ENGLISH, THE NEW ENGLISH BIBLE AS WELL AS ROTHERHAM'S EMPHASIZED BIBLE, THE NEW AMERICAN BIBLE, AND THE REVISED STANDARD VERSION ALL USE "SONS OF GOD".

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF WHEN YOU HEAR THE PHRASE "THE SONS OF GOD"? DO YOU NOT THINK OF THE ANGELS?

MY FAVORITE TRANSLATION OF LUKE 20:34-6, WHICH I FEEL MOST ACCURATELY AND PLAINLY ILLUSTRATES WHAT JESUS WAS TRYING TO COMMUNICATE, COMES FROM THE LIVING BIBLE AS FOLLOWS: "MARRIAGE IS FOR PEOPLE HERE ON EARTH, BUT WHEN THOSE WHO ARE COUNTED WORTHY OF BEING RAISED FROM THE DEAD GET TO HEAVEN, THEY DO NOT MARRY. 36 AND THEY NEVER DIE AGAIN; IN THESE RESPECTS THEY ARE LIKE ANGELS, AND ARE SONS OF GOD, FOR THEY ARE RAISED UP IN NEW LIFE FROM THE DEAD."

NOTHING LEFT TO ELABORATE ON FROM THAT ONE. IT SAYS IT ALL.

IT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE MOST LITERAL TRANSLATION AROUND AND ONE DOES HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHEN PARAPHRASING SO AS NOT TO BE TOO PRESUMPTUOUS OR SUBJECTIVE IN THE PARAPHRASING OF A SCRIPTURE BUT I FEEL THEY DID A VERY GOOD JOB WITH THIS PARTICULAR ONE.

IT DOES SEEM TO ME THAT 3. JESUS IS SAYING THAT THOSE RESURRECTED WILL BE ANGELS.

POINT 4. THEY WILL RESIDE IN HEAVEN.

BOTH MATTHEW 22:30 AND MARK 12:25 READ ABOUT THE SAME. I WILL USE MATTHEW:. . ."BUT ARE AS ANGELS IN HEAVEN."  MOST OTHER TRANSLATIONS READ THIS WAY OR "LIKE THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN.", AND A COUPLE SAY: "LIKE THE ANGELS OF GOD IN HEAVEN."

J.B. PHILLIP'S NEW TESTAMENT IN MODERN ENGLISH RENDERS IT: "MEN LIVE LIKE THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN."

AN AMERICAN TRANSLATION SAYS: "THEY LIVE AS ANGELS DO IN HEAVEN."

IN OUR "KINGDOM INTERLINEAR" THE GREEK IS TRANSLATED: "BUT AS ANGELS IN THE HEAVEN THEY ARE".

NOW IF "IN HEAVEN"  OR "IN THE HEAVENS" APPLIED ONLY TO THE ANGELS AND NOT TO THOSE RESURRECTED THEN IT WOULD HAVE MORE LIKELY BEEN WORDED AS "OF HEAVEN" OR "OF THE HEAVENS" AS IT IS IN "ANGELS OF HEAVEN" OR "THE ANGELS OF THE HEAVENS" IN MATT. 24:36. ALSO LIKE "BIRDS OF HEAVEN"-MATT. 6:26, "THE KINGDOM OF THE HEAVENS", "ANGELS OF GOD"-LUKE 12:8, "KINGDOM OF GOD" AND "SONS OF GOD". OF - NOT IN. CORRECT?

NOTICE HOW IT LOOKS WHEN YOU TURN IT AROUND LIKE THIS: BUT ARE IN HEAVEN AS ANGELS. THIS OPPOSED TO THE WAY IT REALLY IS: "BUT ARE AS ANGELS IN HEAVEN."  IT WORKS EITHER WAY DOESN'T IT? WOULD YOU NOT AGREE THAT 4. THEY (THE RESURRECTED ONES) WILL RESIDE IN HEAVEN.

SO MUCH FOR #4.

NO. 5. JESUS THEN REPROVED THE SADDUCEES BEFORE ALL FOR THEIR LACK OF FAITH IN GOD AND HIS OBVIOUS, BIBLICALLY STATED PURPOSE TO RESURRECT. IN THE LAST PART OF THIS ACCOUNT I WILL QUOTE MARK'S (12:26-7) VERSION.

"BUT CONCERNING THE DEAD, THAT THEY ARE RAISED UP, DID YOU NOT READ IN THE BOOK OF MOSES, IN THE ACCOUNT ABOUT THE THORNBUSH, HOW GOD SAID TO HIM, 'I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM AND GOD OF ISAAC AND GOD OF JACOB'? 27 HE IS A GOD, NOT OF THE DEAD, BUT OF THE LIVING. YOU ARE MUCH MISTAKEN."

THE WAY IT LOOKS TO ME, JESUS WAS JUST SPELLING IT OUT PLAINLY TO EVERYONE WHAT THE PROMISE WAS THAT HE WAS NOW HOLDING OUT TO ALL WHO WOULD TAKE A HOLD OF IT AND EMBRACE IT. A PROMISE DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE THAT THEY ALL UNDERSTOOD FROM THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS. DIFFERENT FROM THE DAYS OF JOHN THE BAPTIST ONWARD UNTIL SUCH TIME THAT THE FULL NUMBER SHOULD BE SEALED AND GATHERED.

POINT 6. HERE IS SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER. IT IS MENTIONED OF THE RESURRECTED IN LUKE'S ACCOUNT THAT "NEITHER CAN THEY DIE ANYMORE, FOR THEY ARE LIKE THE ANGELS". SOUNDS LIKE IMMORTAlITY DOESN'T IT.

BUT WAIT A MINUTE! ACCORDING TO OUR CURRENT UNDERSTANDING OF REVELATION 20:4-6, THE ONLY ONES GIFTED WITH IMMORTAlITY IN THE RESURRECTION (CALLED THE FIRST RESURRECTION IN REVELATION) WERE THOSE WHO CAME TO LIFE AND RULED AS KINGS AND PRIESTS IN HEAVEN.

THE REST, WHO ALTHOUGH RESURRECTED ON EARTH JUST AFTER THOSE WHO ARE RESURRECTED TO HEAVEN, WILL HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE END OF THE THOUSAND YEARS TO PROVE THEMSELVES. THE SECOND DEATH COULD STILL HAVE AUTHORITY OVER THESE UNTIL THEY HAVE PROVEN THEMSELVES WORTHY THROUGH SATAN'S TESTING AT THE END OF THOSE THOUSAND YEARS.

SO IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT JESUS COULD NOT HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE RESURRECTED ONES ON EARTH BECAUSE HE WOULD NOT HAVE ASCRIBED IMMORTALITY TO THEM AS HE DID TO THE ONES THAT HE MENTIONED TO THE SADDUCEES.

INDEED, 6. IMMORTAlITY WAS ASCRIBED TO THESE RESURRECTED ONES. THIS COULD ONLY APPLY TO THOSE OF THE FIRST RESURRECTION AND NOT TO THE EARTHLY RESURRECTEES WHO BELONG TO THE SECOND RESURRECTION.

I FEEL I HAVE ACCOMPLISHED ALL THAT I SET OUT TO DO IN PROVING POINTS 1-6 SOUNDLY FROM THE SCRIPTURES. PLEASE NOW CONSIDER SOME OTHER IDEAS WHICH HAVE SOME SCRIPTURAL MERIT AND SHED MORE LIGHT ON THIS TOPIC. I BELIEVE THEY ALSO STRONGLY REINFORCE MY SUGGESTED INTERPRETATION.


GOD'S ORIGINAL PURPOSE
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I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL HERE TO DISCERN WHY GOD CREATED US AND TRY TO DISCERN WHAT HIS INTENTIONS AND PLANS WERE FOR US IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND OF COURSE THOSE PLANS HAVE NOT CHANGED (ISA.45:18, 55:11, MAL.3:6).

WHY DID JEHOVAH CREATE LIFE IN THE FIRST PLACE? WHY THE ANGELS? WHY US?

I ONCE READ ABOUT 6 YEARS AGO IN A MAGAZINE A QUOTE THAT SAID: "TO LOVE IS THE GREATEST HAPPINESS OF EXISTENCE."

I FEEL THERE IS A LOT OF MEANING IN THAT SHORT STATEMENT. I AGREE WITH IT WHOLE HEARTEDLY AND I BELIEVE IT HOLDS THE ANSWER TO THESE QUESTIONS I HAVE BROUGHT UP.

WHAT MAKES LIFE REALLY MEANINGFUL?  TRAVELING TO THE MOON? OR PERHAPS SAILING AROUND THE WORLD IN RECORD TIME OR CLIMBING THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN? STUDYING 20,000 VARIETIES OF INSECTS? SOMEHOW NONE OF THOSE THINGS REALLY DO ANYTHING FOR ME.

I ENJOY A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES - BUT I GET TIRED OF THEM ALL. IT IS NOT REALLY MEANINGFUL TO DO THOSE THINGS AT LEAST BY YOURSELF. BUT WHAT I REALLY FIND MEANINGFUL AND REWARDING IS GIVING TO, SHARING WITH, HELPING, AND TEACHING OTHERS. ENJOYING LIFE WITH OTHER PEOPLE. SHARING LIFE AND EXPERIENCE. THAT IS MEANINGFUL!

AND AFTER ENOUGH GIVING YOU ARE EVENTUALLY BOUND TO RECEIVE BACK PLENTIFULLY. THOSE WITH WHOM YOU SHARED WILL WANT TO SHARE BACK AND RETURN.

WASN'T IT JESUS WHO SAID THAT IT IS BETTER TO GIVE THAN TO RECEIVE? YES, AND HE WAS RIGHT (AS IF THAT WAS A SURPRISE).

DON'T YOU ALWAYS FEEL GOOD AFTER HELPING SOMEONE OR SHARING A NICE TIME OR EXPERIENCE WITH SOMEONE. OR AFTER STUDYING THE BIBLE WITH SOMEONE AND HELPING TO IMPART KNOWLEDGE AND LIFE TO THEM. WOULDN'T YOU SAY THAT IS QUITE REWARDING.

I BELIEVE THAT WHEN JEHOVAH GOD WAS ALONE, BEFORE ANY CREATIVE ACT, THAT HE HAD TO DEAL WITH WHAT SORT OF PURSUIT HE WOULD TAKE THAT WOULD BE MEANINGFUL AND REWARDING. SOMETHING WITH PURPOSE. AND WITHIN HIS PERSONALITY AND MAKEUP HE HAD THIS INFINITE ABUNDANCE OF LOVE THAT HE SIMPLY HAD TO LET OUT. LOVE FORCED HIM INTO HIS ACTS OF CREATIVITY. LOVE GAVE BIRTH TO LIFE. LOVE, LIKE FAITH, IF IT TRULY EXISTS, WILL GIVE BIRTH TO WORKS, RESULTS. IT WILL HAVE SOMETHING TO SHOW FOR ITSELF. A GUARANTEED, IRREVOCABLE LAW AS CERTAIN AS THE EXISTENCE OF GOD.

SO GOD CREATED OTHER SPIRITS LIKE HIMSELF, IN HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS. WITH THESE HE SHARED LIFE, LIVING, LOVE; AND MOST IMPORTANTLY HE WOULD SHARE WITH THEM A PURPOSE FOR LIVING, HIS PURPOSE FOR LIVING WHICH THEY WERE FREE TO CHOOSE OR REJECT IN ACCORD WITH THE IDEA OF FREE MORAL AGENCY.

BUT WHY WAS IT THAT JEHOVAH NEEDED TO OR WANTED TO CREATE US - PHYSICAL, FLESHLY CREATURES MADE UP OF MATTER AND BEING QUITE LIMITED COMPARED TO SPIRITS.

JEHOVAH HAD ALL THIS UNLIMITED DYNAMIC POWER AND ABILITY TO USE HOWEVER HE WANTED AND HE WANTED TO USE IT. NONE OF US HAVE OR DEVELOP ABILITIES AND THEN LET THEM LAY DORMANT AND UNUSED. WE WANT TO EXERCISE OUR ABILITIES. LIKE LOVE AND FAITH, ABILITY NEEDS TO BE RELEASED AND EXPRESS ITSELF. YOU DO NOT LIGHT A LIGHT SO THAT YOU MAY HIDE IT UNDER A BASKET DO YOU? WOULD A PAINTER CREATE A BEAUTIFUL PICTURE AND THEN COVER IT AND HIDE IT AWAY FOREVER? ABILITIES NEED TO BE EXERCISED AND THEIR POTENTIALS TO BE EXPLORED AND FULFILLED.

WHAT BETTER WAY TO USE IT THAN TO CREATE ANOTHER FORM OF LIFE WITH SOME OF THIS POWER IN THE FORM OF WHAT WE CALL MATTER. LIFE IN MATERIAL FORM THAT WOULD STILL RESEMBLE THE IMAGE AND LIKENESS OF GOD AND WITH WHOM HE COULD SHARE HIS GRAND PURPOSE AND POUR OUT MORE OF HIS ENDLESS FOUNTAIN OF LOVE.

AND JEHOVAH HAD THIS VAST INFINITE SPACE TO ENDLESSLY FILL. BUT WITH WHAT. STARS - MADE OF A FEW BASIC ELEMENTS. MAYBE A HUNDRED ELEMENTS. BUT ALL THEY AMOUNT TO IS A BUNCH OF LUMINOUS ROCKS FILLING THE HEAVENS. BIG DEAL. I DON'T MEAN TO TRIVIALIZE JEHOVAH'S WORKS BUT NEITHER WOULD I WANT TO INSULT HIS INTELLIGENCE BY THINKING THAT THIS ALONE WOULD CHALLENGE HIS ABILITIES AND GIVE HIM A SENSE OF FULFILLMENT.

IN ORDER TO GIVE PURPOSE AND MEANING TO HIS WORKS HE WOULD NEED TO FILL THE UNIVERSE WITH MORE THAN STARS AND PLANETS. AS LARGE AS THEY ARE, THEY OFFER LITTLE IN THE WAY OF REASONS FOR LIVING, CHALLENGING ABILITIES, OR DEVELOPING SATISFYING RELATIONSHIPS. WE WOULD GROSSLY UNDERESTIMATE JEHOVAH IF WE THINK THAT THE BEST HE COULD DO FOR FULFILLMENT WAS TO HEAP A BUNCH OF ATOMS TOGETHER IN LARGE SPHERICAL SHAPES AND HIGH TEMPERATURES.

NO, BUT GOD DECIDED THAT ARRANGING MATTER INTO FORMS OF LIFE WOULD BE THE ULTIMATE WAY TO PUT MATTER TO USE AND WITH WHICH TO FILL THE UNIVERSE WITH. IT WOULD MAXIMIZE HIS SENSE OF FULFILLMENT AND SATISFACTION - PROVIDED OF COURSE, THAT THIS CREATION AND MULTIPLICATION OF LIFE CONTINUE FOREVER.

WE MUST UNDERSTAND THAT JEHOVAH HAS ABSOLUTELY NO LIMITS. HIS ABILITIES AND CAPACITIES ARE INFINITE, UNLIMITED, BOUNDLESS, EVER EXPANDING.

AMONG THESE ABILITIES AND CAPACITIES ARE LOVE, KNOWLEDGE, MEMORY, AND POWER. AND NONE OF THESE HAVE ANY LIMITS. THEY ARE ENDLESS.

IN ORDER TO BE CHALLENGED OR MATCHED AND SATISFIED, WHATEVER JEHOVAH ATTEMPTS MUST IN SOME WAY BE INFINITE, ENDLESS, AND EVER EXPANDING.

THIS INCLUDES HUMAN BEINGS. THOUGH WE OURSELVES ARE LIMITED BY OUR MATERIAL NATURE, OUR ABILITY AS A RACE TO REPRODUCE AND EXPAND IS UNLIMITED AND UNTAPPED.

DO YOU STILL DOUBT? THINK OF THIS.

A MAN CONTINUALLY PRODUCES SPERM FOR REPRODUCTION. THERE IS NO END TO THAT PRODUCTION AS LONG AS HE REMAINS YOUNG (RELATIVELY SPEAKING).

A WOMAN HAS A QUARTER OF A MILLION EGG CELLS IN EACH OF HER TWO OVARIES. SHE GOES THROUGH ABOUT 400 IN HER LIFETIME. WHY DID JEHOVAH GIVE THEM HALF A MILLION WHEN EVEN IF THEY LIVED FOR A THOUSAND YEARS THEY WOULDN'T USE MORE THAN 10,000. SHE HAS 50 TIMES TEN THOUSAND. KIND OF AN OVERKILL, ISN'T IT? BUT NOT IF SHE WAS DESTINED LIVE FOREVER AND REPRODUCE FOREVER.

WE HAVE REASONED BEFORE THAT BECAUSE SO LITTLE OF THE HUMAN BRAIN'S CAPACITY IS USED THAT GOD MUST HAVE CREATED IT TO LIVE A LOT LONGER AND REALIZE ALL THE POTENTIAL THAT IT WAS DESIGNED AND MADE FOR.

SHOULD WE NOT SAY THE SAME (IF WE WANT TO REMAIN CONSISTENT IN OUR REASONING) FOR THE FEMALE REPRODUCTIVE SYSTEM. AND I SUSPECT THAT AFTER THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF LIFE THAT SHE WILL PRODUCE MORE EGGS TO REPLACE THOSE THAT SHE HAS USED UP JUST AS A MAN IS ABLE TO CONTINUALLY REPLENISH HIS SEED.

WE MUST REMEMBER THAT ALTHOUGH JEHOVAH SAID "FILL THE EARTH" HE DID NOT SAY THAT IT WOULD END THERE NOR DID HE SAY IT WOULD CONTINUE. HE SIMPLY SAID TO FILL THE EARTH AND AFTER WE HAVE DONE THAT THE WAY THAT HE WANTED IT DONE THEN HE WILL TELL US WHAT TO DO NEXT.

JEHOVAH PROBABLY FIGURED THAT IT WASN'T IMPORTANT OR RELEVANT TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BE NEXT UNTIL WE HAD FIRST COMPLETED PHASE ONE WHICH IS LAID DOWN IN GENESIS FOR US. JEHOVAH HAD MANY PLANS FOR ABRAHAM AND HIS OFFSPRING BUT HE WOULD ONLY REVEAL SMALL BITS OF IT AT A TIME PROGRESSIVELY AS IT BECAME NECESSARY AND RELEVANT TO REVEAL SOMETHING. IT IS THE SAME FOR US.

THE CONCLUSION I COME TO THROUGH ALL OF THIS IS THAT IT WAS GOD'S INTENTION FROM THE BEGINNING TO ENDLESSLY FILL THE UNIVERSE WITH HUMAN CREATION. JUST AS HE STARTED THE HUMAN FAMILY OUT IN A SMALL PART OF THE EARTH CALLED EDEN WHERE HE HAD PLANTED A GARDEN SO HE WILL START THE RACE OUT IN A SMALL PART OF THE GALAXY CALLED EARTH WHICH WILL EVENTUALLY SPREAD TO FILL THE WHOLE GALAXY AND BEYOND.

IS IT REALLY GOD'S PURPOSE TO FILL THE UNIVERSE? - WITH LIFE? I'M GOING TO QUOTE ROBERT A. MILLIKAN: "WE HAVE COME FROM SOMEWHERE AND ARE GOING SOMEWHERE. THE GREAT ARCHITECT OF THE UNIVERSE NEVER BUILT A STAIRWAY THAT LEADS TO NOWHERE." JEHOVAH DOES NOT DO SOMETHING FOR NOTHING.

THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE TODAY WHO LOOK UP AT THE ENDLESS SPAN OF STARS IN THE SKY AND SAY: "WE CAN'T BE THE ONLY ONES." MANY FEEL THAT THERE MUST BE OTHER FORMS OF LIFE OUT THERE IN THE UNIVERSE. WE ARE JUST TO SMALL AND REMOTE A PLACE IN SUCH A VAST COLLECTION OF CELESTIAL BODIES. THEY SENSE OR ARE PERHAPS EVEN OVERWHELMED BY A FEELING THAT THERE SHOULD BE MORE THAN WHAT THEY ARE CURRENTLY PERCEIVING.

I BELIEVE WHAT THEY ARE PICKING UP ON IS GOD'S AS YET UNFULFILLED PLAN TO EXPAND AND EXTEND LIFE INTO ALL REACHES OF THE UNIVERSE. THEY MISINTERPRET THIS FEELING AND CONTEMPLATE THE POSSIBILITY OF OTHER LIFE. OTHER THAN SPIRITS, I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE ARE ANY OTHER LIFE FORMS CREATED BY JEHOVAH. WE ARE THE FIRST; AND THE ONES TO SETTLE THE ISSUES OF FREE MORAL AGENCY. ONCE THIS HAS ALL BEEN ACCOMPLISHED THEN HE CAN FURTHER PROCEED WITH HIS PLANS. BUT THERE IS NO SENSE IN STARTING 10 DIFFERENT PLANETS TO HAVE THEM ALL SETTLE THE SAME ISSUES WITH THE SAME SUFFERING THAT WE HAVE. ONCE IS ENOUGH, DON'T YOU THINK?

AS FOR UFO ENCOUNTERS AND OTHER SUCH PHENOMENA, THEY CAN BE WELL EXPLAINED BUT NOT HERE. PERHAPS ANOTHER TIME. YOU MIGHT FIND BRAD STEIGER'S 'UFO ABDUCTORS' VERY INFORMING, THOUGH. LETS JUST SAY THAT SOME OF GOD'S MORE DISOBEDIENT CHILDREN HAVE NOT BEEN BEHAVING VERY WELL.

INFINITE GROWTH OF THE HUMAN RACE TO MATCH THE INFINITE LOVE, MEMORY, AND INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY OF THE SOVEREIGN LORD OF THE UNIVERSE AND HIS SPIRIT SONS, THE ANGELS.

JUST AS A SIDE POINT. I SUSPECT THE ANGELS WILL HAVE A LARGER, MUCH LARGER PART IN GOD'S PURPOSE AND LIKELY WITH THE HUMAN RACE SINCE THEY ALREADY HAVE HAD INVOLVEMENT WITH THE HUMAN RACE AS MESSENGERS. AND THEY HAVE MUCH MORE POWER AND ABILITY THAN WE DO. SO WE SHOULD EXPECT THEY WILL HAVE A LARGER PART IN GOD'S PURPOSE THAN WE WILL.


QUESTIONS FROM READERS
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I SHOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS ONE LAST POINT THAT COMES FROM YOUR 'QUESTIONS FROM READERS' COLUMN OF JUNE 1, 1987. IT ASKED: "IS IT WISE FOR A CHRISTIAN WHOSE MATE HAS DIED TO REMAIN SINGLE IN THE HOPE OF BEING REUNITED IN THE FUTURE?" YOU GAVE SOME SCRIPTURAL REASONS WHICH I FEEL I HAVE DEALT WITH AND ANSWERED IN THE FIRST PART OF THIS LETTER. YOU ALSO GAVE AN EXAMPLE OF A WOMAN WHO MIGHT LOOSE A HUSBAND TO DEATH AND BE LEFT WITH CHILDREN TO CARE FOR.

THE SCRIPTURES ARE CLEAR. SHE IS FREE TO REMARRY AND EASE HER BURDEN OF CHILD REARING OR EVEN JUST LONELINESS. BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT SHE MUST REMARRY. SHE MAY NOT CONSIDER HER BURDEN TO BE THAT GREAT AND DECIDE NOT TO REMARRY OR IT MAY BE THAT AN OPPORTUNITY TO REMARRY DOES NOT COME ALONG. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT HAPPENS SOMETIMES. WHATEVER THE CASE, IF SHE IS AVAILABLE TO BE MARRIED AND HER ORIGINAL HUSBAND IS RESURRECTED THEN I BELIEVE THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET REMARRIED IF THEY SO CHOOSE.

LET ME TAKE THIS TO THE RIDICULOUS IF I MAY. SUPPOSE THAT A WIDOW WITH CHILDREN REMARRIES IN THIS SYSTEM. PROVIDED THAT SHE DID NOT BARE ANY CHILDREN TO HER 2ND HUSBAND, THE POSSIBILITY EXISTS THAT JEHOVAH COULD REUNITE THE ORIGINAL HUSBAND WITH HIS WIDOWED WIFE AND CHILDREN FOR THE SAKE OF THE CHILDREN. THIS IS ASSUMING THAT THIS ALL HAPPENED "NEAR ARMAGEDDON" SO THAT THE CHILDREN ARE STILL YOUNG DEPENDENTS WHO MIGHT DESIRE THEIR ORIGINAL FATHER NOW THAT HE IS ALIVE AGAIN. EITHER THAT OR THE WIDOW AND CHILDREN DIED THEMSELVES SOMETIME AFTER THE HUSBAND'S DEATH BUT NOT BEFORE REMARRIAGE. HOW'S THAT FOR IMAGINATION!

YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THIS. JEHOVAH HAS THE RIGHT TO CREATE LIFE AND THE RIGHT TO DESTROY LIFE IF HE SO JUDGES. AND WHILE NO HUMAN HAS THE RIGHT OUTSIDE OF ADULTERY TO SEPARATE A COUPLE YOKED IN MARRIAGE, THAT RIGHT DOES BELONG TO GOD TO SEPARATE A COUPLE WHO HAVE BEEN JOINED IN MARRIAGE IF HE SO DECIDES. WHETHER HE WOULD MAKE SUCH A DECISION OR NOT IS ANOTHER QUESTION. BUT THE POSSIBILITY DOES EXIST ESPECIALLY IF CHILDREN ARE INVOLVED.

NOW WE COULD WASTE MANY PAGES DISCUSSING PROBABLE (OR IMPROBABLE IS MORE ACCURATE) SITUATIONS AND DIFFERENT TWISTS. WE COULD DO JUST LIKE THE SADDUCEES DID. I ALREADY HAVE. JUST ONE THING REMAINS.

DEATH TERMINATES A MARRIAGE WITH ABSOLUTELY OBLIGATION NOW OR AFTER THE RESURRECTION. A MAN OR A WOMAN IS FREE TO MARRY AGAIN WITH GOD'S BLESSING. BUT IT DOES NOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN PREVENT A COUPLE SEPARATED BY DEATH FROM REUNITING WITH EACH OTHER AFTER BEING RESURRECTED. A BEREAVED MATE WHO SEEKS ANOTHER MATE DOES, HOWEVER, SEVERELY REDUCE IF NOT ELIMINATE ANY CHANCES OF A REUNION WITH THEIR FIRST LOVE AT THIS POINT IN TIME (BEING SO CLOSE TO GOD'S JUDGEMENT). MY POINT WAS THAT THERE COULD BE SOME UNIQUE EXCEPTIONS.

I BRING THIS WHOLE TOPIC UP ONLY BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE BROTHERS AND SISTERS, WHO PERHAPS HAVE BEEN ROBBED OF THEIR LOVED ONE IN DEATH, TO KNOW THAT THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION AND A HOPE AVAILABLE TO THEM IF THEY SO CHOOSE AND DESIRE, RATHER THAN THE ONES WE ALREADY KNOW OF (LIKE REMARRIAGE). MAYBE THERE HAVE BEEN THOSE WHO LOVED THEIR MATE SO DEARLY THAT ANY OTHER WOULD BE OF NO CONSOLATION TO THEM. SUCH FEELINGS HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED BY EXPERIENCES RELATED IN THE WATCHTOWER BY FAITHFUL SERVANTS OF GOD. THE LOVE BETWEEN THE SHULAMMITE MAIDEN AND HER SHEPHERD BOY STRIKES ME AS POSSIBLY BEING OF THAT KIND.

BUT NOBODY DOES ANY WRONG BY REMARRYING. BUT IN THE CRISIS OF DEATH AND BEREAVEMENT IT IS NICE TO KNOW ALL YOUR OPTIONS.  YOU MAY CHOSE ONE FOR NOW AND DECIDE ON ANOTHER LATER BUT ATLEAST THE HOPE IS THERE IF THEY NEED IT FOR A WHILE. AND IF REMARRIAGE NEVER COMES ALONG THEN A HOPE STILL EXISTS, DOESN'T IT.


CONCLUSION
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I SINCERELY HOPED THIS BRIGHTENED YOUR OUTLOOK ON THE FUTURE A LITTLE MORE (I HOPE IT WAS PRETTY BRIGHT TO BEGIN WITH). THESE TYPES OF THINGS SHOULD NOT BE HIDDEN FROM US AS THE SOCIETY OFTEN CHOOSES TO DO. BUT WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO HIDE THIS SEEMINGLY HARMLESS DOCTRINE WHICH BEARS SO MUCH HOPE AND RELIEF FOR SO MANY? WHY, INDEED!!

IT'S LIKE THIS. IF WHAT IS SAID ABOUT JESUS ONLY PREACHING ABOUT THE KINGDOM OF THE HEAVENS IS TRUE, THEN EVERYTHING HE EVER TALKED ABOUT IS LIKELY TO BE APPLIED TO THOSE HAVING THE HEAVENLY HOPE. WHAT'S SO BAD ABOUT THAT? READ THE SECTIONS AFTER THIS AND YOU WILL FIND OUT. ALL SORTS OF THEIR BELIEFS COME CRASHING DOWN IN FLAMES WHEN HELD IN THIS LIGHT. SEE FOR YOURSELF.

I HOPE YOU WILL LOOK INTO MORE OF WHAT FOLLOWS ON THESE SUBJECTS THAT ARE OFFERED THROUGH US. I AM SURE YOU WILL FIND THEM INFORMATIVE, SCRIPTURAL, AND JUST POSSIBLY, ENLIGHTENING. AND IT WILL COST YOU NOTHING TO INVESTIGATE. BE SURE NOT TO PASS UP THIS OPPORTUNITY. MAY WE ALWAYS CONTINUE TO PROGRESS AND CONSTANTLY REASSESS OUR BELIEFS, WHICH IF FIRM, WILL ALWAYS STAND UP TO THE MACHINATIONS OF THE RESISTOR/LIAR.


 


OUR MEDIATOR
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WHY A MEDIATOR?

"IN THE BEGINNING GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH." GEN.1:1. THIS IS UNDISPUTED. SHORTLY AFTER GOD CREATED HUMAN LIFE. FOR WHAT PURPOSE? WE CAN AT LEAST SAY WITH CERTAINTY THAT GOD DID HAVE A PURPOSE TO FULFILL IN CREATING US AND THAT PURPOSE HAS NOT CHANGED (I ASSUME YOU HAVE READ PART 1 - "JESUS' REPLY TO THE SADDUCEES").

THE PURPOSE WAS, OF COURSE, TEMPORARILY DELAYED BY MANKIND'S REBELLION AND WITH IT AROSE THE NEED TO CORRECT THIS DEVIATION IN THE COURSE OF MANKIND. THIS IS WHERE THE NEED FOR A MEDIATOR COMES IN, NAMELY JESUS. AND JESUS WAS GOING TO WANT SOME HELP. THIS IS WHERE THE LITTLE FLOCK OF 144,000 HELPERS, TAKEN FROM THE EARTH TO SERVE IN HEAVEN, COME IN.

WHAT WE WANT TO REMEMBER IS THAT THE FIRST PURPOSE, THE PRIMARY PURPOSE, WAS THAT OF CREATING MANKIND TO LIVE FOREVER IN PARADISE. THE NEED FOR A MEDIATOR AND HIS HELPERS WAS NOT NEEDED AND WOULD NOT HAVE COME ABOUT HAD MANKIND NOT REBELLED BACK IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN.

SOME SAY THAT JESUS CAME, PRIMARILY AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO VINDICATE JEHOVAH'S NAME. WELL, THAT IS NOT ALL WRONG BUT HAD MANKIND REMAINED FAITHFUL THEN JESUS WOULD NOT HAVE NEEDED TO COME IN THE FIRST PLACE. BUT NOTICE WHY JESUS SAID THAT HE WAS HERE ON EARTH:

"THE SON OF MAN CAME, NOT TO BE MINISTERED TO, BUT TO MINISTER AND TO GIVE HIS SOUL A RANSOM IN EXCHANGE FOR MANY." MATT.20:28. ALSO MARK 10:45.

YES, JESUS ACCOMPLISHED MANY THINGS WHILE HERE ON EARTH, VINDICATING GOD'S NAME, PREACHING A NEW HOPE TO THOSE AT THAT TIME, STARTING THE PREACHING WORK AND THINGS "WHICH, IF EVER THEY WERE WRITTEN IN FULL DETAIL, I SUPPOSE, THE WORLD ITSELF COULD NOT CONTAIN THE SCROLLS WRITTEN." JOHN 21:25. BUT THE REASON HE HAD TO COME AT ALL WAS TO REDEEM MANKIND BY OFFERING HIMSELF AS A SACRIFICE IN THEIR BEHALF.

MANKIND, ADAM SPECIFICALLY, HAD A DIRECT PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. ADAM AND JEHOVAH CONVERSED WITH EACH OTHER DIRECTLY. NO MEDIATOR WAS NEEDED BETWEEN THEM FOR ANY REASON. THIS WAS A PROSPECT THAT ALL OF ADAM'S CHILDREN COULD HAVE INHERITED. BUT INSTEAD, ADAM ALIENATED HIMSELF FROM JEHOVAH AND DESTROYED THE CHANCE FOR HIS CHILDREN TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD WITHOUT THE NEED OF A MEDIATOR. THIS WAS THE THING THAT WAS LOST AND THIS IS WHAT MUST BE REPAIRED AND BROUGHT BACK; THIS UNMEDIATED, DIRECT PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JEHOVAH.

THIS WAS THE GOAL TOWARD WHICH THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS WAS OFFERED. BUT SOME WOULD HAVE US BELIEVE THAT THE FIRST PRIMARY GOAL WAS THE FORMING OF THE 144,000 TO LIVE AND RULE WITH JESUS IN HEAVEN. BUT THE 144,000 ARE NOT THE PURPOSE OR GOAL. THEY ARE THE MEANS TOWARD WHICH THE REAL GOAL IS ACHIEVED. THE GOAL OF REUNITING MEN WITH GOD; WHICH GOAL IS REACHED THROUGH THE SACRIFICE AND MEDIATION OF OUR KING AND HIGH PRIEST, JESUS, THE CHRIST, SAVIOR OF ALL MANKIND, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.

LET US LOOK AT A FEW SCRIPTURES CLOSELY TO SEE IF THEY SUPPORT THIS VIEW.

1 TIM.2:5-6: "FOR THERE IS ONE GOD, AND ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MEN, A MAN, CHRIST JESUS, 6 WHO GAVE HIMSELF A CORRESPONDING RANSOM FOR ALL". NOTICE HOW THIS SCRIPTURE SAYS THE SACRIFICE AND MEDIATION ARE FOR ALL, NOT JUST A SELECT FEW; BETWEEN GOD AND MEN, ALL MEN, NO DISTINCTIONS MADE; THERE ARE NONE TO BE MADE. HOW ABOUT THE NEXT?

1 JOHN 2:2: "AND HE IS A PROPITIATORY SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS, YET NOT FOR OURS ONLY BUT ALSO FOR THE WHOLE WORLD'S." LET ME ASK YOU, WHO IS JOHN TALKING TO OR ABOUT WHEN HE SAYS: "NOT FOR OURS ONLY"? THE CHRISTIANS WHO WERE ALIVE AT THAT TIME READING HIS LETTER; CONSECRATED, DEDICATED BELIEVERS? IT SEEMS MOST LIKELY DOESN'T?

THE "WHOLE WORLD'S" SINS? YES, JESUS, ACCORDING TO THIS SCRIPTURE, DIED FOR THE SINS OF MANY MORE THAN JUST THE 144,000. AND WHEN HE DIED FOR THEIR SINS IN A PROPITIATORY SACRIFICE, THAT MEANS THAT HE ALSO BECOMES THE MEDIATOR FOR THEM BY BEING THE SACRIFICE AND HIGH PRIEST OF THAT SACRIFICE.

AND JOHN 3:16: "FOR GOD LOVED THE WORLD SO MUCH THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY-BEGOTTEN SON, IN ORDER THAT EVERYONE EXERCISING FAITH IN HIM MIGHT NOT BE DESTROYED BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE."  IT WAS THE ENTIRE WORLD THAT GOD LOVED AND HE GAVE HIS SON FOR EVERYONE, NOT JUST 144,000.

THE SCRIPTURES ARE PLAIN AND EMPHATIC ON THIS DOCTRINE. TO TEACH ANYTHING ELSE IS APOSTASY AT ITS WORST. BUT HOW WOULD SOME GET ANY OTHER IDEA? POSSIBLY THIS IS WHY.


SOMETHING MISSED BEFORE
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IN LUKE 22 WE OBSERVE JESUS AND HIS DISCIPLES CELEBRATING THE PASSOVER. JESUS INSTITUTES THE PARTAKING OF THE BREAD AND WINE (LUKE 22:19,20) WHICH WERE TO BE SYMBOLIC OF THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS' BODY AND BLOOD WHICH WERE TO BE GIVEN IN BEHALF OF ALL MANKIND IF WE ARE TO BELIEVE THE PREVIOUS SCRIPTURES AS WELL AS THAT OF JESUS MANY WORDS ABOUT THE SUBJECT (REMEMBER MARK 10:45?). IT WAS THIS OBSERVANCE THAT JESUS HINTED AT IN THE CONTROVERSY OF JOHN 6:35-59.

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES (OR SHOULD I SAY "THE GOVERNING BODY") SAY THAT THIS WAS ONLY TO BE OBSERVED BY THOSE DESTINED FOR HEAVEN. THEY SAY THIS BECAUSE WHEN JESUS SAYS "YOU" AND "YOUR" THEY THINK JESUS IS ADDRESSING ONLY THOSE OF THE APOSTLES RECLINING WITH HIM AND DESTINED FOR HEAVEN. BUT NOTICE IN VERSE 28, SOME 8 VERSES AFTER THE INSTITUTION OF THE BREAD AND WINE, THAT HE THEN ADDRESSES THE APOSTLES ABOUT BEING IN HEAVEN AND RULING WITH HIM.

YOU SEE, THESE ARE TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SUBJECTS; THE SUBJECT OF INHERITING RULERSHIPS IN HEAVEN AND THE SUBJECT OF OBSERVING JESUS SYMBOLIC SACRIFICE WHICH WAS FORSHADOWED BY THE SACRIFICES OF THE ISRAELITES FLEEING EGYPT DURING THE PASSOVER. THIS POINT IS COMPLETELY MISSED BY THE "SOCIETY" AND THEIR FOLLOWERS.

JESUS COMMANDED HIS APOSTLES IN MATT.+28:+19,+20 TO "GO THEREFORE AND MAKE DISCIPLES OF PEOPLE OF ALL THE NATIONS . . . TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THE THINGS I HAVE COMMANDED YOU." THAT'S RIGHT! ALL FOLLOWERS OF JESUS, WHETHER DESTINED FOR HEAVEN OR EARTH, SHOULD BE PARTAKERS OF THE EMBLEMS BECAUSE THE EMBLEMS REPRESENT THE SACRIFICE WHICH WAS OFFERED TO ALL, FOR ALL, "IN ORDER THAT EVERYONE EXERCISING FAITH IN HIM MIGHT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE."

JOHN 6:51 SAYS: "I AM THE LIVING BREAD THAT CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN; IF ANYONE EATS OF THIS BREAD HE WILL LIVE FOREVER; AND, FOR A FACT, THE BREAD THAT I SHALL GIVE IS MY FLESH IN BEHALF OF THE LIFE OF THE WORLD." THE WORLD, NOT JUST A FEW. IN FACT JESUS STATES (IN VS.53): "MOST TRULY I SAY TO YOU, UNLESS YOU EAT THE FLESH OF THE SON OF MAN AND DRINK HIS BLOOD, YOU HAVE NO LIFE IN YOURSELVES." SOUNDS PRETTY SERIOUS, DOESN'T IT?

JUST AS A SIDE POINT, NOTICE IN VS.+54 THAT THOSE THAT EAT AND DRINK OF HIS FLESH AND BLOOD LIVE FOREVER AND HE "SHALL RESURRECT HIM (THEM) AT THE LAST DAY".

IF THIS WERE TO APPLY ONLY TO THE "ANOINTED," THEN IT WOULD THROW OUT THE IDEA THAT THE ANOINTED WERE RESURRECTED IN 1914, 1918, 1919 OR WHENEVER (RIDICULOUS ISN'T IT), SINCE IT IS NOW CLEAR THAT THEY ARE BROUGHT TO LIFE AT THE LAST DAY. SOME MIGHT SAY THAT SINCE THE SCRIPTURE SAYS THEY WILL LIVE FOREVER THEN IT COULD NOT APPLY TO THOSE DESTINED FOR THE EARTH. I WOULD FIND THIS PROBLEM A LOT EASIER TO RECONCILE THAN THE RESURRECTION OF 1914. IT LEAVES A LOT OF FOOD FOR THOUGHT EITHER WAY, DOESN'T IT? (YOU HAVE READ "1914 RE-EXAMINED" HAVEN'T YOU?).

EVERLASTING LIFE COULD BE ATTRIBUTED TO THOSE RESURRECTED ON THE LAST DAY WHO WOULD LIVE ON EARTH; MEANING THAT THEY WOULD AT LEAST HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF ATTAINING IT DEPENDING ON THEIR CHOICE OF CONDUCT. THEY WOULD NOT HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY IF THEY WERE NOT RESURRECTED. JESUS WAS NOT A "LAWYER LIKE" TECHNICAL SPEAKER WHO USED ABSOLUTE PRECISE MEANINGS OF WORDS TO GIVE DEFINITION TO VERY STRICTLY DEFINED IDEAS SUCH AS WE WHO HAVE A VERY DEVELOPED LANGUAGE FOR VERY DETAILED MEANINGS AND HAVE THE VERY BAD INFLUENCE OF LAWYERS ON OUR SOCIETY HERE IN 20TH CENTURY WESTERN CIVILIZATION.

IN ADDITION, JESUS WAS PREACHING ABOUT THE KINGDOM OF THE HEAVENS AND WAS SPEAKING FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW. THOUGH HE WAS NOT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING THE "GREAT CROWD" AT THAT TIME, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT WOULD NOT APPLY TO THEM. HE WOULD ASSUME THAT WE WOULD UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCES THAT IT WOULD MEAN FOR US WITH OUT HIM HAVING TO SPELL IT OUT IN LAWYER LIKE FASHION THE WAY THE SOCIETY DOES. IT WOULD MEAN EVERLASTING LIFE FOR THE HEAVENLY ONES, BUT SALVATION AND A RESURRECTION WITH A POSSIBILITY OF EVERLASTING LIFE FOR US.

THE SUBJECT OF PARTAKING, THE "FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE", AND OTHER RELATED TOPICS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. MORE DETAIL AND A WIDER RANGE OF THESE SUBJECTS ARE COVERED IN OUR BOOKLET "THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE." WRITE FOR IT TODAY.

I HOPE THIS HELPS CLEAR UP YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD AND CHRIST. MAYBE YOU'LL EVEN BE PARTAKERS BY THE TIME OF THE NEXT "MEMORIAL" (AFTER THE ONE THAT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAVE - THEIRS IS A POOR IMITATION, ANYWAY!)

THIS DOCTRINE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE HARD FOR MANY WITNESSES TO UNDERSTAND. SOME HAVE FELT UNCOMFORTABLE WITH IT AND NO WONDER! BUT NO ONE WOULD EVER DARE SERIOUSLY QUESTION IT, OF COURSE! NOT OPENLY, ANYWAY.

ALWAYS STRIVE TO KNOW JEHOVAH WITH AS MUCH ACCURACY AS POSSIBLE, DILIGENTLY EXAMINING THE SCRIPTURES TIME AND AGAIN. OUR FAITH, IF TRUE, WILL ALWAYS SHINE THROUGH, OR EVEN IMPROVE AND GET BETTER WITH REFINEMENT. AND CONTINUE IN MORE ABUNDANT LOVE AND FINE WORKS SO THAT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SILENCE THE SOCIETY WHEN THEY ACCUSE DISSENTERS OF NOT WANTING TO PREACH OR BEING LAZY AND HAVING ILL MOTIVES. LET YOUR LOVE AND FINE WORKS SILENCE THEM. GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS.


 


JESUS'  “PRESENCE”
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IN A WORLD THAT IS BECOMING EVERMORE CHAOTIC AND CONFUSING, WITH WIDESPREAD VIOLENCE AND POLLUTION SATURATING EVERY INCH OF OUR ENVIRONMENT, MORE AND MORE PEOPLE ARE BEGINNING TO TAKE THE BIBLE'S THREATS OF THE LAST DAYS AND A NEW BEGINNING SERIOUSLY ( THOUGH NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING FORWARD TO IT ).

BUT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAVE LONG LOOKED UPON THE LAST DAYS AS AN INEVITABLY COMING REALITY, MUCH TO THEIR CREDIT.  BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN WITHOUT SOME MISUNDERSTANDING.   I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO SHOW TO YOU THEIR ERROR SO THAT WHEN "ARMAGEDDON" FINALLY ARRIVES,  IT WILL HOLD FEW SURPRISES OR FALSE EXPECTATIONS FOR YOU.

ONE OF THE MOST COMMON BELIEFS OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IS THE IDEA OF CHRIST'S PRESENCE OR PAROUSIA  ( PAROUSIA IS THE GREEK WORD FROM WHICH WE GET PRESENCE )  BEING, ITSELF,  A PERIOD OF TIME TO BE FULFILLED, WHICH THEY CONSIDER TO BE SINCE 1914, THUS MAKING THEIR BELIEVED PRESENCE OF CHRIST TO BE TO DATE, 75 YEARS.

IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO SAY WHETHER 1914 INFLUENCED THIS BELIEF OR THIS BELIEF INFLUENCED THE 1914 BELIEF BUT LIKELY IT IS THE FORMER AND NOT THE LATER THAT IS TRUE. AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHER SCRIPTURES THAT HAD AN INFLUENCE ON THIS BELIEF, TOO.

LET US LOOK AT ONE OF THE FIRST SCRIPTURES THAT ONE USUALLY FIRST ENCOUNTERS WHEN JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES COME TO THEIR DOORS. IT'S A WELL KNOWN ONE FROM  ISAIAH 2:2-4:

        "2 AND IT MUST OCCUR IN THE FINAL PART OF THE DAYS THAT THE MOUNTAIN OF THE HOUSE OF JEHOVAH WILL BECOME FIRMLY ESTABLISHED ABOVE THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAINS, AND IT WILL CERTAINLY BE LIFTED UP ABOVE THE HILLS; AND TO IT ALL THE NATIONS MUST STREAM.
        3 AND MANY PEOPLES WILL CERTAINLY GO AND SAY: 'COME, YOU PEOPLE, AND LET US GO UP TO THE MOUNTAIN OF JEHOVAH, TO THE HOUSE OF THE GOD OF JACOB; AND HE WILL INSTRUCT US ABOUT HIS WAYS, AND WE WILL WALK IN HIS PATHS.' FOR OUT OF ZION LAW WILL GO FORTH, AND THE WORD OF JEHOVAH OUT OF JERUSALEM.
        4 AND HE WILL CERTAINLY RENDER JUDGMENT AMONG THE NATIONS AND SET MATTERS STRAIGHT RESPECTING MANY PEOPLES. AND THEY WILL HAVE TO BEAT THEIR SWORDS INTO PLOWSHARES AND THEIR SPEARS INTO PRUNING SHEARS. NATION WILL NOT LIFT UP SWORD AGAINST NATION, NEITHER WILL THEY LEARN WAR ANYMORE."

THE QUESTION ARISES AS TO WHAT ISAIAH MEANS BY "THE FINAL PART OF THE DAYS".  LET US SEE IF THE REST OF THE SCRIPTURE CAN ANSWER THAT FOR US.
HAS THE MOUNTAIN OF JEHOVAH BEEN FIRMLY ESTABLISHED ABOVE THE TOP OF THE "MOUNTAINS"? 
HAS JEHOVAH RENDERED JUDGEMENT AMONG THE NATIONS AND PEOPLES?
HAVE WE CEASED MAKING WAR WEAPONS AND STARTED LIVING PEACEFULLY
(DOESN'T IT SEEM FUNNY TO EVEN ASK THAT?)?
IF YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO ANSWER ALL THESE QUESTIONS WITH YES (OR EVEN ANY OF THEM) THEN IF YOU ARE ONE OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES,  YOU MAY HAVE SOME RETHINKING TO DO IN REGARD TO WHAT IS MEANT BY "THE FINAL PART OF THE DAYS.


THE SECOND COMING
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"WHAT WILL BE THE SIGN OF YOUR PRESENCE AND OF THE CONCLUSION OF THE SYSTEM OF THINGS?" MATT.24:3. WHAT DID THE APOSTLES UNDERSTAND TO BE JESUS' PRESENCE. MOST BIBLE TRANSLATIONS WORD THIS AS COMING OR ARRIVAL. THE BEST WAY TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION IS TO LOOK AT ALL THE OTHER PLACES IN THE BIBLE WHERE THE ORIGINAL GREEK WORD "PAROUSIA" APPEARS. "PAROUSIA" IS THE WORD THAT IS TRANSLATED AS "PRESENCE" FOR US IN MATT.24:3. I WILL LIST THEM ALL {22 of them} FOR YOU:

MATT.24:3, 27         2 THESS. 2:1, 8, 9        1 COR.15:23 - 16:17        JAMES 5:7 - 5:8

2 COR.7:6 - 7:7 - 10:10         2 PET. 1:16 - 3:4         PHIL.1:26 - 2:12 - 3:12

1 JON.1:28         1 THESS. 2:19 - 3:13 - 4:15 - 5:23       

2 THES.2:8;  JAS.5:7, 8; AND  2 PE.3:4  REFER TO JESUS PRESENCE IN A WAY THAT DOES NOT SUPPORT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES'  IDEAS ON THE MATTER.  2 PE.3:12 MENTIONS  "THE PRESENCE OF THE DAY OF JEHOVAH".  WOULDN'T YOU SAY THAT THAT WAS REFERRING TO "ARMAGEDDON" RATHER THAN AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME?

1 JOHN 2:28: "REMAIN IN UNION WITH HIM, THAT WHEN HE IS MADE MANIFEST WE MAY HAVE FREENESS OF SPEECH AND NOT BE SHAMED AWAY FROM HIM AT HIS PRESENCE." NOTICE HOW JESUS' PRESENCE IS ASSOCIATED WITH HIS MANIFESTATION ("WHEN HE IS MAKE MANIFEST"). AGAIN, IT DOES NOT SOUND LIKE HE IS TALKING ABOUT AN INVISIBLE REIGN OF TIME BEFORE THE VERY "LAST DAY."

SOME OF THE OTHER SCRIPTURES CITED IN THE COLUMNS REFER TO THE VERY PHYSICAL PRESENCE OF PAUL, TIMOTHY, AND TITUS. IF ONE WERE TO READ ALL OF THESE REFERENCES OBJECTIVELY, ONE COULD SEE "PRESENCE" USED LIKE THE WORDS: COMING,  ARRIVAL,  MANIFESTATION,  REVEALING,  APPEARANCE,  EMERGENCE.  WITH PAUL,  TIMOTHY,  AND TITUS, THE WORD PRESENCE SHOWS AN EVEN STRONGER MEANING LIKE:  A VISIT IN PLAIN VIEW, IN SIGHT OF, IN THE COMPANY OF.  THIS ORIGINAL GREEK WORD WAS NOT ONE THAT REFERRED TO SOME WEAK, LIGHT, OR SUBTLE PRESENCE.  IT IS A FAIRLY STRONG WORD AND THE PRESENCE OF CHRIST WOULD BE VERY STRONG AND NOTICEABLE; PRONOUNCED.

YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO DOUBT OR WONDER WHETHER YOU WERE "SEEING" HIM OR NOT.  WHAT THE APOSTLES WERE REALLY ASKING WAS NOT A SIGN OF HIS PRESENCE AND THE END BUT A SIGN THAT WOULD TELL THEM WHEN IT WAS CLOSE TO HIS PRESENCE (MANIFESTATION) AND THE END SO THEY WOULD KNOW IT WAS ABOUT TO HAPPEN.  IN FACT, WHAT THEY WERE REALLY SEARCHING FOR FROM JESUS WAS AN EXACT TIME WHEN THIS WAS ALL TO TAKE PLACE. WHAT JESUS HAD TO MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND WAS THAT IT WAS A LONG TIME AWAY AND MANY THINGS HAD TO TAKE PLACE FIRST. HE THEN DESCRIBED MANY THINGS THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE PRIOR TO HIS ARRIVAL AND THE END.

NO DOUBT YOU HAVE READ PART TWO OF THIS BOOKLET CALLED "1914 RE-EXAMINED". IF 1914 CAN BE PROVEN, BEYOND THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT, NOT TO EXIST THEN THAT WOULD HELP PUT A FINAL END TO THIS IDEA OF JESUS PRESENCE BEING SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE END. BUT NOT BEFORE WE LAY ONE LAST FLOWER ON THE TOMBSTONE OF THIS IDEA.


ITS ALL GREEK TO ME
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IN THE WATCHTOWER STUDY ARTICLE "HARVESTING IN THE 'TIME OF THE END'", AUG. 1, 1981, PG.22, THE SOCIETY TOLD US ABOUT TWO (2) APPARENTLY DIFFERENT GREEK WORDS THAT WERE TRANSLATED INTO OUR LANGUAGE AS "END" OR "CONCLUSION". THOSE TWO WORDS WERE "SYNTELEIA" AND "TELOS".  THE SOCIETY TELLS US THAT "SYNTELEIA" MEANS "CONCLUSION";  AS A PERIOD OF TIME HAVING A BEGINNING AND AN END. THEY THEN IDENTIFY "TELOS" AS MEANING THE ABSOLUTE FINAL END;  THAT'S IT!   IT'S OVER. PERIOD. THEY QUOTED W.E. VINE'S "EXPOSITORY DICTIONARY OF NEW TESTAMENT WORDS"  ON THE WORD AND SUGGESTED THAT IT BACKED THEIR INTERPRETATION (THOUGH THIS IS FAR FROM THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER). BUT I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING.

GO INTO ANY PUBLIC LIBRARY AND LOOK UP IN "LIDDELL AND SCOTT'S GREEK ENGLISH LEXICON" THE WORDS "SYNTELEIA" AND "TELOS". AND THEN FIND A COPY OF "JAMES STRONG'S EXHAUSTIVE CONCORDANCE OF THE BIBLE" AND LOOK UP THESE TWO WORDS IN HIS DICTIONARY OF THE GREEK TESTAMENT IN THE BACK.  YOU WILL QUICKLY DISCOVER WHAT I DID, AND WITH NO EFFORT EITHER.  APPARENTLY,  THE SOCIETY HADN'T DONE THIS OR THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN IT, TOO. SEE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT BELOW!

"TELOS" IS INDEED "THE END" BUT WHEN YOU LOOK UP "SYNTELEIA" YOU FIND OUT SEVERAL THINGS UNTOLD. "SYNTELEIA" IS ACTUALLY MADE UP OF TWO ROOT WORDS, "SYN" WHICH IS ALSO SPELLED "SUN" (PRONOUNCED SYOON ; SUN) AND "TELEIA" WHICH COMES IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT FORMS WHICH I SHALL SPELL OUT:

           TELEIA

           TELEIOS

           TELEO

           TELOS

YES, THAT'S RIGHT. "TELEIA" AND "TELOS" ARE BASICALLY THE SAME WORD. "SYN" OR "SUN" IS ADDED TO ENHANCE THE MEANING. TELOS, WITHOUT SYN, MEANS, SIMPLY, THE "END". WITH THE "SYN" ADDED IN FRONT IT WOULD MEAN THE "ALL ENCOMPASSING, COMPLETE, ENTIRE END. "SYN" WAS USED FOR EMPHASIS OR ASSOCIATION IN GREEK. ADD SYN TO PRINCIPLE AND YOU GET A "UNITING OR JOINT PRINCIPLE". (THESE ARE ALL WORDS TAKEN FROM THE BIBLE THAT HAVE "SYN" IN THEM). SYN + SERVANT BECOMES "FELLOW SERVANT". SYN + RUN BECOMES "RUN TOGETHER".

SO "SYNTELEIA" IS NOT REFERRING TO CONCLUSION AS A PERIOD OF TIME BUT SIMPLY ELABORATING MORE ON THE WORD "TELOS" OR "END". THAT IS TO SAY, THERE IS NO ROOM FOR WHAT THE SOCIETY SUGGESTS WHEN THEY SAY THAT JESUS' PRESENCE IS A SPAN OF TIME THAT TAKES PLACE JUST PRIOR TO THE FINAL END OF THIS SYSTEM. "SYNTELEIA" OR "CONCLUSION" OF THE SYSTEM OF THINGS IS THE END, THE VERY END IN A COMPLETED, PAST TENSE.


THE WAY IT IS
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WHAT JESUS WAS REALLY TRYING TO TELL THE APOSTLES AND US WAS THAT BEFORE HIS "SECOND COMING" AND ARRIVAL, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE MANY THINGS THAT TOOK PLACE FIRST. (YES, I AM REPEATING MYSELF FROM EARLIER, JUST CALL IT "REPETITION FOR EMPHASIS"). AND JESUS ALSO DESCRIBED WHAT THINGS HERE ON EARTH WOULD BE LIKE JUST PRIOR TO HIS ARRIVAL.  HE GAVE US SIGNS TO LOOK FOR THAT WOULD TELL US HE WAS "NEAR AT THE DOORS" AND READY TO POUNCE. WE MUST CERTAINLY BE AT THAT TIME NOW.

THIS, OF COURSE, LEAVES MANY MORE QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED FOR JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.  WHEN ARE THE DEAD ANOINTED TO BE RESURRECTED. JESUS PLAINLY STATES IN JOHN CHAP.6, IN BOTH VERSES 39 AND 40 THAT IT WOULD BE AT THE LAST DAY; AND AGAIN IN 44, AND 54. HE DOESN'T BEAT AROUND THE BUSH HERE, DOES HE? THIS TEACHING WAS CLEAR TO HIS FOLLOWERS AS WE CAN SEE FROM MARTHA'S REPLY TO JESUS IN JOHN 11:24: "I KNOW HE WILL RISE IN THE RESURRECTION ON THE LAST DAY."

AND JESUS WAS NOT AT ANY OF THESE TIMES PREACHING ABOUT THE EARTHLY RESURRECTION BECAUSE IT IS MADE VERY CLEAR TO US IN MATT.11:12,13 AND LUKE 16:16 THAT JESUS CAME TO PREACH THE "KINGDOM OF THE HEAVENS" AS THE HOPE TO BE PURSUED BY THOSE HE PREACHED TO.

THE INFAMOUS "1 THESS.4:15-17" BECOMES A LOT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND WITH THIS CHANGE IN THINKING. IT MENTIONS THOSE WHO WOULD "SURVIVE TO THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD" (ASSUMING PAUL MEANS "HIS ARRIVAL AND MANIFESTATION"; THE END!) AND BE TAKEN AWAY INTO THE CLOUDS (THAT WAS THE BEST WAY PAUL COULD THINK OF TO DESCRIBE THE TRANSFORMATION FROM PHYSICAL PRESENCE HERE ON EARTH TO A SPIRITUAL ONE IN HEAVEN WITH GOD AND CHRIST) JUST AFTER THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD ONES WHO CAME BEFORE THEM. THIS WOULD ALL TAKE PLACE WITH THE SOUNDING OF "GOD'S TRUMPET".

IN REVELATION 10:7, IT IS STATED THAT "THE SOUNDING OF THE SEVENTH ANGEL" ON HIS TRUMPET WOULD BRING A FINISH TO ALL THAT GOD HAD DECLARED. THE END. THIS IS REPEATED IN 11:16 WHERE THE SEVENTH ANGEL BLOWS HIS TRUMPET AND "THE KINGDOM OF THE WORLD" BECOMES "THE KINGDOM OF OUR LORD AND OF HIS CHRIST, AND HE WILL RULE AS KING FOREVER AND EVER." AND THEY LIVED HAPPILY EVER AFTER.

I WOULD THINK THAT THE SCRIPTURES I HAVE QUOTED THROUGHOUT WOULD CONVINCE AN OBJECTIVE MAN WITH NO PREVIOUS KNOWLEDGE OF SCRIPTURE THAT CHRIST'S PRESENCE AND COMING IS, INDEED, NOTHING OTHER THAN "THE LAST DAY", THE END OF IT ALL, THE FINAL CONCLUSION OF THE SYSTEM OF THINGS, WHAT HAS COME TO BE KNOWN TO 20TH CENTURY INHABITANTS AS "ARMAGEDDON."

CONCLUSION
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ALL HAVING BEEN SAID AND DONE, THIS CHANGE IN THINKING REALLY DOESN'T CHANGE ANYTHING FOR ANY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. WHETHER CHRIST'S KINGDOM TOOK OVER 75 YEARS AGO OR HAS YET TO FULLY TAKE OVER TODAY, WE ARE STILL OBLIGATED TO LIVE GOOD LIVES AND MAKE KNOWN TO PEOPLE GOD'S INTENTIONS FOR US, PLANET EARTH, AND THE FUTURE.  AND WE HAVE MORE REASON, TODAY, FOR DOING THAT THAN EVER BEFORE IN HISTORY.  BUT LET US ALWAYS DO IT WITH AN OPEN MIND TOWARD THE SCRIPTURES AND DOCTRINE ALWAYS REALIZING THAT KNOWLEDGE IS EVER GROWING AND CHANGING AND THAT WHAT WE UNDERSTAND TODAY WILL ALL BE CHANGED AND DIFFERENT TOMORROW (1 COR.8:2).

BUT WHAT WILL REMAIN WITH US ALWAYS IS LOVE AND WE CAN NEVER GIVE OR GET ENOUGH OF THAT. LOVE LEAVES US WITH PLENTY ENOUGH TO KEEP US BUSY ALWAYS. THINGS GO BETTER WITH LOVE ON THEM. SO SPREAD PLENTY OF IT AROUND AND YOU WILL ALWAYS BE KNOWN AS CHRIST'S DISCIPLES. CHEERS!


 


1914 RE-EXAMINED
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INTRODUCTION

1989 MARKS THE 75TH YEAR SINCE THE YEAR OF 1914. JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAVE WAITED FOR "GENERATIONS" (AT LEAST 3) TO SEE THE FINAL CONCLUSION OF THE SYSTEM OF THINGS (TYPICALLY TERMED "END OF THE WORLD" BY OTHERS) WITHIN A GENERATION OF THE COMING OF THAT YEAR 1914.

JEWS HAVE TRADITIONALLY CONSIDERED A GENERATION TO BE THE SPAN OF 75 YEARS. THAT WOULD MAKE THIS YEAR (1989) THE YEAR "IT SHOULD ALL HAPPEN". BUT AS CLOSE AS IT SEEMS TO HAPPENING (IT DOES SEEM VERY CLOSE TO ME) IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE 1989 WILL BE THAT YEAR. OF COURSE, NO REASONABLE MAN COULD SAY PROPHECY FAILED IF IT WERE TO TERMINATE IN 1990 RATHER THAN 1989. BUT THERE ARE FAR GREATER REASONS FOR QUESTIONING THE SOUNDNESS OF THIS DOCTRINE THAN THOSE GIVEN ABOVE.

IN 1968 A YOUNG BROTHER IN SWEDEN, NAMED CARL JONSSON, WHILE PIONEERING, WAS CONDUCTING A STUDY WHEN THE STUDY CHALLENGED HIM TO PROVE THE DATE OF 607 B.C.E., AS OPPOSED TO THE DATE THAT HISTORIANS TYPICALLY GIVE (587/586 B.C.E.). THROUGH THE YEARS FROM 68-75 THIS BROTHER GATHERED INFORMATION ABOUT THIS DISCREPANCY; AND WITH THE EVENTS THAT 1975 BROUGHT FROM WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION, HE DISCUSSED HIS UNEXPECTED FINDINGS WITH SOME CLOSE, RESEARCH-MINDED FRIENDS. NONE OF THEM COULD REFUTE THE FINDINGS HE CAME UP WITH; FINDINGS INDICATING THAT 607 WAS NOT THE YEAR BUT THAT 587 WAS REALLY THE TIME OF THE ACTUAL EVENT.

HE THEN PREPARED A TREATISE AND SENT IT TO THE GOVERNING BODY OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN 1977. IT WAS SO GOOD AND CONVINCING THAT 3 PROMINENT MEMBERS OF THE GOVERNING BODY PROPOSED A CHANGE IN DOCTRINE. IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT RATHER THAN 1914 BEING THE YEAR THAT "THIS GENERATION WOULD WITNESS" THE INCOMING AND FULFILLING OF ALL PROPHECY ALONG WITH THE END "BEFORE IT PASSED AWAY" - THAT THIS COULD MORE PROPERLY BE FULFILLED BY THE LAUNCHING OF THE SPUTNIK SATELLITE LAUNCHED INTO SPACE BY THE SOVIET UNION IN 1959. THIS, BASED UPON LUKE 21:25 WHICH TOLD OF "SIGNS IN SUN AND MOON AND STARS" AND "THE POWERS OF THE HEAVENS SHAKEN". IT SEEMED TO THESE 3 BODY MEMBERS THAT THIS WAS THE BEGINNING OF SUCH SIGNS OF WHICH MORE FOLLOWED WITH FURTHER DEVELOPMENT OF SPACE RESEARCH.

BUT IF 607 WAS NOT TRUE, THEN NEITHER WAS 1914. THIS WOULD PUSH THE DATE UP TO 1934. THERE WERE MANY, MANY OTHER PROBLEMS TO SOLVE IF THIS, AMONG OTHER THINGS, WERE TRUE. RATHER THAN FACE THE SCARY CONSEQUENCES OF THE FACT THAT SOMEWHERE BACK IN OUR CHRONOLOGY WE MADE SOME SERIOUS GOOFS, THE BODY CHOSE TO IGNORE THE REALITY CONFRONTING THEM AND VOTED THE PROPOSED CHANGE BY THE OTHERS DOWN.

BUT NOW THEY WERE LEFT WITH THE PROBLEM OF WHAT TO ANSWER TO THE SWEDISH BROTHER WHO WAS NOW AN ELDER, BY THE WAY. AND THIS BROTHER HAD DISCUSSED THIS WITH A FEW OTHERS AS I HAD PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED. THEY REALLY COULD NOT REFUTE THE POINTS THAT HE HAD RAISED NO MORE THAN HIS FRIENDS WERE ABLE TO. SO INSTEAD, THEY TRIED NOT TO ANSWER HIM AT ALL. BUT AFTER A LENGTHY WAIT, THE SWEDISH ELDER STARTED TELLING OTHERS ABOUT IT. HE WAS CALLED ON THE CARPET SO TO SPEAK, AND EXPLAINED THAT "BROOKLYN" HAD NOT ANSWERED HIM AND THAT HE WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER. THE CO-ORDINATOR OF THE SOCIETY'S WORK IN SWEDEN, BENGT HANSSON, MET WITH JONSSON, WHO EXPLAINED HIS CASE TO THE CO-ORDINATOR.

UP TO THIS POINT SOME VICIOUS ACCUSATIONS HAD BEEN THROWN AT JONSSON AND HIS ASSOCIATES. SUCH THINGS AS "DANGEROUS ELEMENTS IN THE CONGREGATION", "HERETICS", "EVIL SLAVES", "BLASPHEMERS" AND THE LIKE. YOU KNOW! ALL THE TYPICAL THINGS WE ALWAYS DO WHEN SOMEONE QUESTIONS THE SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT OF ONE IDEA OR ANOTHER. AT LEAST WE ARE CONSISTENT, RIGHT?

JONSSON WROTE TO THE SOCIETY: "HOW TRAGICALLY, THEN, TO OBSERVE HOW A SITUATION DEVELOPS, WHERE THE ATTENTION IS DRAWN AWAY FROM THE QUESTION RAISED - THE VALIDITY OF THE 607 B.C.E. DATE - AND DIRECTED TO THE PERSON WHO RAISED IT, AND HE - NOT THE QUESTION - IS REGARDED AS THE PROBLEM! THIS IS REALLY DISTRESSING. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT A SITUATION OF THIS KIND DEVELOPS IN OUR MOVEMENT?"

AFTER EXPLAINING THE SITUATION TO THE CO-ORDINATOR, BROTHER HANSSON, IT WAS REQUESTED BY HANSSON THAT THE SOCIETY ANSWER MR. JONSSON'S QUESTIONS RAISED IN THE TREATISE SENT TO THEM. THE SOCIETY DID REPLY BUT ESSENTIALLY AVOIDED ANY OF THE REAL ARGUMENTS RAISED BECAUSE, TO BE JUST PLAIN HONEST, THE POINTS WERE TOO GOOD TO REFUTE.

CARL JONSSON FELT HE HAD NO OTHER ALTERNATIVE THAN TO PUBLISH HIS FINDINGS HIMSELF AND MAKE IT KNOWN TO THE PEOPLE SINCE THE SOCIETY WAS UNWILLING. HE WAS SUBSEQUENTLY DISFELLOWSHIPPED. THIS WAS IN 1982.

WHAT NOW FOLLOWS IS THE SUBSTANCE OF WHAT HE PUBLISHED AS WELL AS SOME SIGNIFICANT ADDITIONS LATER REALIZED BY MYSELF. I SINCERELY HOPE IT WILL ADVANCE YOUR SCRIPTURAL UNDERSTANDING AND MOVE YOU TO THE FINER WORKS AND ACTIVITY THAT CHRISTIAN TRUTH AND CANDOR SHOULD BE ABLE TO BRING ABOUT WITH THE BACKING OF GOD'S SPIRIT. ENJOY!


1914'S ORIGINS
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HOW DO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARRIVE AT THE DATE OF 1914? THIS IS THE NECESSARY PLACE TO START IN ORDER TO UNRAVEL THE DOCTRINE AND RE-EXAMINE ITS BACKING IN THE SCRIPTURES. WHERE DOES IT ALL START? HOW ABOUT DANIEL 4? NO! ACTUALLY IT BEGINS FOR US IN DANIEL CHAP.9:24-27.

IT HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR CENTURIES, EVEN FOR SEVERAL MILLENNIUM, THAT THIS PASSAGE PROPHESIED A SPECIFIC TIME THAT COULD BE CALCULATED TO KNOW WHEN THE ARRIVAL OF THE MESSIAH WOULD BE. THIS IS PROBABLY WHY PEOPLE WERE IN EXPECTATION OF THE MESSIAH'S (THE CHRIST'S) ARRIVAL AS MENTIONED IN LUKE 3:15. AND AS EXPECTED, THE CHRIST ARRIVED, ALTHOUGH NOT IN THE APPEARANCE THAT THEY HAD IMAGINED HE WOULD.

IN THE CENTURIES THAT FOLLOWED, MANY RABBIS AND SCHOLARS STARTED LOOKING AT OTHER PROPHECIES TO SEE IF THEY, TOO, MIGHT HAVE A SIMILAR WAY OF BEING CALCULATED AND FULFILLED. THEY TRIED THIS FORMULA FOR THE 2,300 DAYS OF DAN.8:14, AND THE 1290 DAYS AND 1335 DAYS OF DAN.12:11,12.; AND EVENTUALLY THE 7 TIMES OF DAN.4:16,23.

>>But take note here that Daniel 8 and 12 speak of "days," whereas Daniel 4 speaks of "times." and what is more, none of these necessarily invoke Ezekiel's day for a year formula. In fact, I do not believe the 2300, 1290, and 1335 days should have the year for a day formula applied. I think they are meant literally as days, and not symbolically. As well, Daniel was written in Aramaic by Daniel, Aramaic being the language of the Babylonians, having descended from Aram, a son of Shem.

In fact, the only prophecies that merit the day for year interpretation, would be Daniel 9's prophecy of the Messiah's coming, and Ezekiel's sins of Judah for 40 days for 40 years and Israel's 390 days for 390 years, and the 3.5 days of the 2 witnesses' bodies laying dead in Revelation, being 3.5 years.

What I find interesting about this is that Daniel, the most important prophet in the Old Testament, as I see it, is not in Hebrew. Some view the Hebrew language as sacred or even magic. It is neither. God intended that in time, His words would be in every language and tongue. Hebrew was the language of Abraham and that is why Israel spoke in Hebrew. So God addressed Abraham and Israel in Hebrew.

But since Daniel wrote in Aramaic, the priests copied that book in its original language. Both languages use the same alphabet style, Israel/Judah preferring the Babylonians' artistic style of lettering to their own Hebrew.<<

THE MAN TO FIRST INTERPRET DAN.4'S 7 TIMES INTO 2520 DAYS USING THE DAY FOR A YEAR PRINCIPLE WAS JOHN AQUILA BROWN IN 1823. VARIOUS OTHERS PICKED UP ON THIS, INCLUDING A WILLIAM MILLER WHOSE FOLLOWERS BECAME KNOWN AS MILLERITES. HE LOOKED FOR 1843 TO BE THE FINAL FULFILLMENT OF 2520 YEARS COMMONLY KNOWN THEN AND NOW AS THE "GENTILE TIMES." THE PROPHECY FAILED AND BROKE INTO SEVERAL ADVENTIST GROUPS OF WHOM A NELSON H. BARBOUR CAME TO PROMINENCE.

>>William Miller was the one who gave the year for a day interpretation of the 7 times the big notoriety it had. What most JWs (nor anyone else for that matter) do not know, is that Miller was influenced by Lafayette, who helped us win the Revolutionary War in 1889, also guided Miller in his studies and preaching. Both were Freemasons. Fritz Springmeier details not only their history, but also how most religions that started in this period known as the Great Awakening, was motivated by Freemasons and Jewish promoters, too. So in nearly every aspect, this prophecy interpretation has bad origins and stinks to high heavens.

I bring Fritz's info on this matter into another article, on Charles Taze Russell for your consideration. That backgrounds of all these characters makes a big difference. For what sharing do righteousness and lawlessness have? NONE!<<

IT WAS THIS N.H. BARBOUR WHOM CHARLES TAZE RUSSELL BECAME INFLUENCED BY AND EVENTUALLY HAD A BRIEF ASSOCIATION WITH BEFORE GOING OUT ON HIS OWN. RUSSELL DISCOVERED THIS TEACHING OF THE 7 GENTILE TIMES IN BARBOUR'S PUBLICATION "THE HERALD OF THE MORNING." RUSSELL WAS NOT THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS DOCTRINE. THOUGH THIS IS NOT DISPUTED BY THE SOCIETY, IT IS USUALLY IGNORED OR OVERLOOKED, AND MANY WITNESSES TEND TO BE IGNORANT OF THIS FACT.

WHAT WE NOW NEED TO DO IS EXAMINE WHY THESE VARIOUS MEN CAME TO BELIEVE THAT THIS PROPHECY WAS SIMILAR TO DAN.9'S PREDICTION OF THE CHRIST'S COMING AND IF IT HAS ANY SOUND SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT.


A SECOND LOOK         (WHAT TIME IS IT??)
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IN DANIEL 9:24 WE SEE "SEVENTY WEEKS THAT HAVE BEEN DETERMINED ..." AND IN VERSE 25 "THERE WILL BE SEVEN WEEKS, ALSO SIXTY-TWO WEEKS."; VERSE 26 "AFTER THE SIXTY-TWO WEEKS MESSIAH WILL BE CUT OFF"; VERSE 27 "HE MUST KEEP THE COVENANT IN FORCE FOR THE MANY FOR ONE WEEK; AND AT THE HALF OF THE WEEK HE WILL ..."

WHAT WE CAN CLEARLY SEE HERE IS THE USE OF THE WORDING "WEEKS" AND NUMBERS OF "WEEKS".  BUT IN DANIEL 4 WE NOTICE "LET SEVEN TIMES PASS OVER IT" (VERSE 16) AND "LET ITS PORTION BE UNTIL SEVEN TIMES THEMSELVES PASS OVER IT." IT SAYS 7 TIMES NOT 7 WEEKS OR 7 WEEKS OF YEARS.

IS THERE ANYTHING IN THIS PASSAGE OF DAN.4 THAT MAKES IT SIMILAR TO DAN.9? IF THERE IS IT IS NOT APPARENT TO ME. BUT THESE MEN AS WELL AS MANY TODAY FEEL THAT JESUS' REFERENCE TO THE "GENTILE TIMES" AS TRANSLATED IN LUKE 21:24 OF THE KING JAMES AUTHORIZED VERSION MIGHT BE RELATED TO THE 7 TIMES OF DANIEL.

LET US CONSIDER THE WORD "TIMES" MORE CLOSELY. THE FOLLOWING ARE THE DIFFERENT FORMS OF TIME(S) THAT APPEAR IN THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION OF THE HEBREW SCRIPTURES.

1. TIME, SEASON, MOMENT - HEBREW/ARAMAIC: ZEMAN; EXAMPLES: DAN.3:7 "AT THE SAME TIME"; NEHEMIAH 2:6 "I GAVE HIM THE APPOINTED TIME."

2. AMOUNT - HEBREW/ARAMAIC: YAD; EXAMPLES: GEN.43:34 "FIVE TIMES THE SIZE"; DAN.1:20 "TEN TIMES BETTER THAN".

3. DAY, DAYS, PASSING OF TIME OR DAYS- HEBREW: YOM, YAMIM (SINGULAR, PLURAL FORMS); EXAMPLES: GEN. 4:3 "IT CAME ABOUT AT THE EXPIRATION OF SOME TIME";  EXODUS 2:23 "IT CAME ABOUT DURING THOSE DAYS" * HERE THEY TRANSLATED IT AS "DAYS" BUT IT IS THE EXACT SAME HEBREW WORD THEY TRANSLATED AS "TIME" IN THE PREVIOUS VERSE (GEN.4:3).

4. AN APPOINTED TIME OR SEASON - HEBREW/ARAMAIC: MOED;  EXAMPLES: EX. 34:18 "AT THE APPOINTED TIME IN THE MONTH OF ABIB"; DAN.12:7 "IT WILL BE FOR AN APPOINTED TIME, APPOINTED TIMES AND A HALF."

5. ANOTHER FORM FOR APPOINTED TIME OR SEASON AS WELL AS A SPAN OF TIME - ARAMAIC: IDDAN; EXAMPLES: DAN. 2:8,9 "I AM AWARE THAT TIME IS WHAT YOU MEN ARE TRYING TO GAIN ... UNTIL THE TIME ITSELF IS CHANGED."; DAN.2:21 "HE IS CHANGING TIMES AND SEASONS". THIS IS THE FORM TRANSLATED AS TIME THAT IS USED IN DAN. 4 AS 7 "TIMES." THIS ARAMAIC WORD "IDDAN" APPEARS ONLY IN THE BOOK OF DANIEL AND NO PLACE ELSE. ONE REASON FOR THIS IS THAT THE ROOT OF THIS WORD HAS A CHALDEAN ORIGIN. BUT MANY OF THE OTHER FORMS OF TIME HAVE RELATED ROOTS TO THIS WORD AND IT IS RELATED TO THEM. SO THEY ARE NOT REALLY ALL THAT DISTINCT AS YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE FROM THE WAY THEY ARE USED. BUT IT IS INTERESTING THAT THIS PARTICULAR FORM IS ONLY FOUND IN DANIEL.

6. TIME (IN GENERAL USE) - HEBREW: ETH; THE EXAMPLES ARE MANY. THIS IS BY FAR THE MOST COMMON ROOT WORD FOR TIME IN THE HEBREW LANGUAGE. USED LIKE "AT MEAL TIME; IN THE TIME OF; AT THAT TIME; THE SAME TIME; A TIME TO". YOU GET THE IDEA. SOMETIMES IT IS USED IN WAYS LIKE SOME OF THE ABOVE MEANINGS, TOO.

7. THERE ARE A FEW LITTLE OTHERS BUT THEY ARE NOT IMPORTANT SO I WILL SKIP THEM.

THIS IS HOW SOME OF THESE FORMS RELATE. ETH IS FROM AD WHICH IS PART OF ADDAH (ADDAH IT SELF IS NOT QUITE A REFERENCE TO TIME). IDDAN COMES FROM THE ROOT ED WHICH IS THE SAME AS AYD AND FORMS ADDAH. THE VOWELS MAKE THESE LOOK DIFFERENT BUT THEY BEAR SIMILAR NON-VOWEL STRUCTURES IF NOT IDENTICAL ONES IN SOME CASES. IDDAN, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, IS A CHALDEAN FORM OF A HEBREW WORD. YOU MIGHT ASK: "HOW IS MOED RELATED TO IDDAN?" WATCH!

   ETH = AD =  AYD =   ED = ID

             ADDAH     MOED     IDDAN

              ADAH    MOWED

   MOWADAH    MOWAD

THEY ARE QUITE SIMILAR WHEN YOU EXAMINE THE RELATED ROOTS AND VARIOUS FORMS, AREN'T THEY?

THE IDDAN OF DANIEL IS CORRESPONDINGLY RELATED TO AN UNUSED ROOT ED MEANING TO SET A PERIOD.  I THINK IT IS CLEAR TO US THAT IT MUST MEAN WHEN USED AS IDDAN TO SET OR DECREE A PERIOD OF TIME; AN APPOINTED PERIOD OF TIME.  IT WOULD MAKE SENSE WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF DANIEL.  BUT THE OTHER MEANINGS OF TIME ARE USED SIMILARLY IN SOME CASES SUCH AS DAN.12:7 MENTIONED EARLIER. SINCE THESE ROOT WORDS SEEM TO BE RELATED AND USED SOME WHAT INTERCHANGEABLY LET US LOOK AT OTHER PLACES THAT ARE TRANSLATED AS "7 TIMES".

SORRY, 7 TIMES IS NOT USED ANYWHERE ELSE LIKE IT IS IN DANIEL 4. THERE ARE NO CLUES TO BE FOUND HERE. BUT IF WE JUST LOOK AT THE WAY THAT SEVEN IS USED THROUGHOUT THE SCRIPTURES (LOOK UP SEVEN IN YOUR CONCORDANCE - WHICH ANYONE CLAIMING TO BE A SERIOUS CHRISTIAN SHOULD HAVE, DON'T YOU THINK? ) WE CAN GET A FEEL AND FLAVOR OF WHAT SEVEN MEANT TO THE HEBREW LANGUAGE. AND THEN LOOK AT "TIMES" IN YOUR CONCORDANCE.

WELL, WE COME UP WITH THINGS LIKE "KNOWLEDGE OF THE TIMES AND SEASONS" (THIS IS ONE OF THE MORE ABSTRACT USES OF THE WORD "TIMES"), "TIMES OF THE NATIONS", "IN FORMER TIMES", "TIMES INDEFINITE" (APPEARS IN DANIEL), "STRAITS OF THE TIMES", "INTEND TO CHANGE TIMES AND LAW" (DAN.7:25). IN FACT, DANIEL IS LOADED WITH PECULIAR ABSTRACT WAYS OF USING THE WORD "TIMES". THESE ARE ALL WE CAN REALLY COME UP WITH TO DISCERN WHAT MIGHT BE MET ABOUT "SEVEN TIMES".

REVELATION 12 DOES MENTION 3 AND HALF TIMES (VERSE 14) AND IT SEEMS TO COINCIDE WITH THE 1260 DAYS MENTIONED EARLIER IN VERSE 6. BUT DOES THAT GIVE US THE SCRIPTURAL AUTHORITY TO FORCE THIS INTO THE PROPHECY OF DAN.4?

IT SEEMS TO ME THAT NOTHING CAN BE DISCOVERED IN EXAMINING "SEVEN" OR "TIMES" TO INDICATE THAT THEY HAVE ANY MEANING LIKE THE ONE FOUND IN THE DANIEL 9 PROPHECY OF JESUS COMING TO EARTH. THERE IS NOTHING IN REVELATION TO DEFINE WHAT THE 1260 DAYS MEANT. ARE THEY TO BE INTERPRETED AS A DAY FOR A YEAR? NOT IN REVELATION, ACCORDING TO THE SOCIETY. AND SHOULD THIS FORMULA BE APPLIED TO DAN. 4. IF SO, WHERE ARE THE SCRIPTURES TO INDICATE SO?

AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THE KING JAMES AUTHORIZED VERSION HAS JESUS REFERRING TO THE "GENTILE TIMES" IN LUKE 21:24, BUT THE SOCIETY THEMSELVES ADMIT THAT THIS WAS AN INCORRECT TRANSLATION OF THE PHRASE WHICH THEY RENDER IN THEIR NEW WORLD TRANSLATION AS "TIMES OF THE NATIONS" WHICH DEFINITELY IS MORE CORRECT. AND THERE IS NOTHING HERE TO INDICATE THAT HE (JESUS) WAS REFERRING TO DANIEL 4.  IN FACT, JESUS NEVER DID REFER TO DANIEL 4 ANYWHERE THAT IS RECORDED.

YES, RULERSHIP HAS BEEN TURNED OVER TO SATAN (1 JOHN 5:19) AND THE NATIONS SINCE THE FALL OF ISRAEL TO BABYLON.  BUT THAT CONDITION CONTINUES TO EXIST TODAY AND WILL TILL "ARMAGEDDON."  REVELATION 12:12 INDICATES THAT SATAN AND COMPANY HAVE A "SHORT PERIOD OF TIME" LEFT ON EARTH AFTER HE HAS BEEN OUSTED FROM HEAVEN.  AND THE "BEAST" AND ITS IMAGE ARE STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE AND EXERTING POWER UNTIL THE FINAL TRUMPET BLOW.

IN SUMMARIZING, THERE IS NOTHING CLEAR ABOUT WHAT SEVEN TIMES MEANT. IT DOES NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC PERIOD OR LENGTH OF TIME ATTACHED TO IT. IT SEEMS TO BE QUITE SYMBOLIC. REVELATION IDENTIFIES 3 AND A HALF TIMES AS 1260 DAYS BUT IT DOES NOT IMPLY THAT THIS SHOULD BE APPLIED TO DANIEL. NEITHER DOES IT INDICATE THAT WE SHOULD APPLY A DAY FOR A YEAR.

THERE IS NOTHING IN EZEKIEL 4:6 OR NUMBERS 14:34 (THE "DAY FOR A YEAR" PROPHECIES) TO INDICATE THAT THEY ARE TO BE APPLIED ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE BIBLE. THEY WERE USED IN VERY SPECIFIC SITUATIONS. THERE WAS NOTHING BROAD OR GENERAL IN THEIR USE.

>>The most important aspect of the vision of Daniel 4 was not the 7 times, but God showing, through Nebuchadnezzar's example, that God is in charge and power of all nations and that the devil can be over-ridden at any time that God wants and God places rulers in power, or allows them in power and can remove them at His will. This is the true vital lesson of Daniel 4. Note that Nebuchadnezzar himself acknowledges God as the author of the king's kingdom and the all-powerful authority in heaven and on earth.

That is a mighty big lesson, for many so called Christians have participated in overthrowing kings and rulers, not appreciating that God placed those rulers and that His followers are not to resist kings and rulers, but should obey them where it does not conflict with God's laws. So most Christians have not learned this very important lesson, showing all the more what it is so important.<<


GREATER IMPLICATIONS?
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THE SOCIETY WOULD NOW ARGUE THAT THE REASONS FOR BELIEVING A LARGER FULFILLMENT EXISTS IN DAN. 4 ARE WITHIN DAN. 4. LETS LOOK AT THAT. THEY FEEL THAT THE DESCRIPTION GIVEN IN DAN. 4 ABOUT THE TREE AND ITS IMMENSE SIZE AND SYMBOLISM MUST REFER TO MORE THAN NEBUCHADNEZZAR AND BABYLON. BUT WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT INDICATE THIS? I CAN'T FIND IT ANYWHERE.

THE POINT IS THAT DANIEL HIMSELF PLAINLY INTERPRETS THE DREAM FOR NEBUCHADNEZZAR AND US JUST AS IS DONE IN THE DANIEL 8 VISION OF THE DIFFERENT WILD BEASTS AND THE STATUE IN DANIEL 2. THE BIBLE NEVER LEFT US WITH ANY DOUBT ABOUT THE INTERPRETATIONS OF THESE DIFFERENT PASSAGES. TO INSERT OR ASSUME ANYTHING ELSE WOULD BE UNWARRANTED AND PRESUMPTUOUS, GOING BEYOND THE THINGS WRITTEN.

THE SOCIETY FEELS THAT THIS PERFECTLY FITS WITH ZEDEKIAH, "THE DEADLY, WOUNDED, WICKED CHIEFTAN" OF EZEKIEL 21:25. THEN WHY DIDN'T JEHOVAH GIVE THIS DREAM AND PROPHECY TO ZEDEKIAH RATHER THAN NEBUCHADNEZZAR? SEE AMOS 3:7.

>>Amos 3:7 - 7 Surely the Lord Jehovah will do nothing, except he reveal his secret unto his servants the prophets.<<

AND THEY SEEM TO THINK THAT THE BANDED STUMP SPROUTING, FITS WITH THE "TWIG OUT OF THE STUMP OF JESSE." THERE IS NO SCRIPTURAL REFERENCE TO BACK THEIR "THINKING." AND THE IDEA OF A TREE BEING CUT DOWN IS USED EXTENSIVELY IN THE BIBLE. READ ISA.6:13. OR HOW ABOUT LUKE 3:9:

"INDEED, THE AX IS ALREADY IN POSITION AT THE ROOT OF THE TREES; EVERY TREE, THEREFORE, NOT PRODUCING FINE FRUIT IS TO BE CUT DOWN AND THROWN INTO TO FIRE."

THERE ARE OTHER COMMONLY USED ILLUSTRATIONS IN THE BIBLE. THE USE OF PROSTITUTES IN DESCRIBING ISRAEL OR FALSE RELIGION. WILD BEASTS AS BEING NATIONS OR CERTAIN PEOPLE. ROCKS, MOUNTAINS, CRAGS, I COULD GO ON AND ON. BUT WHAT HAS TO BE UNDERSTOOD HERE IS WHY JEHOVAH GAVE THIS DREAM AND ITS INTERPRETATION TO US IN THE BIBLE.

JEHOVAH REQUIRES A LOT OF FAITH AND TRUST FROM US. FAITH THAT HE CAN RESURRECT, FAITH THAT HE CAN SAVE AND DELIVER, NO MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCE; AND THAT HE HAS COMPLETE TOTAL CONTROL OF EVERYTHING; AND THAT WE DO NOT NEED TO WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING. HE WANTS US TO REST SECURE IN HIS ABILITY AS GOD THE ALMIGHTY. SO HE HAS, ALONG THE WAY, GIVEN US SOME DEMONSTRATIONS OF HIS POWER AND ABILITY AND RECORDED THEM IN THE BIBLE.

HE HAS DEMONSTRATED HIS ABILITY TO CONTROL THE ELEMENTS SUCH AS WIND AND WATER WITH THE PARTING OF THE RED SEA AND THE COLUMNS OF CLOUD AND FIRE (NOT TO MENTION THE 10 PLAGUES); THROUGH IT ALL ACCOMPLISHING DELIVERANCE FOR HIS PEOPLE. HE HAS OPENED THE EARTH TO SWALLOW REBELLIOUS ONES. RAINED MANNA DOWN FROM HEAVEN TO PROVIDE SUSTENANCE, AND CLOTHES TO LAST 40 YEARS. THROUGH ELIJAH HE STOPPED UP THE HEAVENS FROM GIVING FORTH RAIN. HE DEFIED THE LAWS OF NATURE THROUGH ELISHA BY MAKING AN AX HEAD FLOAT. HEALINGS, RESURRECTIONS, GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT, THE BIBLE IS JUST PACKED WITH MARVELOUS EXAMPLES OF GOD'S CONTROL AND ABILITY.

WHAT WAS MOST IMPORTANT TO HIM, THOUGH, WAS TO SHOW US HOW MUCH HE IS IN CONTROL OF THE WORLD AND THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN IT. HOW HE REMOVES KINGS AND SETS OTHER KINGS UP. HOW HE CONTROLS WHAT EVENTS HAPPEN WHERE, WHEN, AND HOW.

HOW MUCH CONTROL WAS HE EXERCISING? WELL, NEBUCHADNEZZAR SURE FOUND OUT, DIDN'T HE? MORE IMPORTANTLY, GOD'S PEOPLE, YOU AND I; WE FOUND OUT (or should have) THAT HE IS VERY MUCH IN CONTROL OF EVERY LITTLE SITUATION.

JESUS SAID THAT NOT A SPARROW (WHOSE WORTH IN THE MARKET PLACE WAS VERY LITTLE) FALLS TO THE GROUND WITHOUT GOD'S KNOWING IT. WHY EVEN THE HAIRS OF OUR HEAD WERE NUMBERED SO THAT ANY FALLING TO THE GROUND WOULD BE NOTICED BY GOD. AND IF GOD SHOULD KEEP SUCH A CLOSE TAB ON WORTHLESS SPARROWS HOW MUCH MORE SO A HUMAN (MATT.10:29-31). SO IT WOULD SEEM THAT GOD IS PRETTY UP ON THINGS, ISN'T HE?

WHY SHOULD IT BE IMPORTANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH JEHOVAH IS IN CONTROL OF WORLD EVENTS? WELL, HOW ABOUT THIS? YOU ARE IN SERVICE TELLING PEOPLE THEY SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WAR IF THEY ARE TO FOLLOW GOD PROPERLY. THEY SAY "SHOULD WE HAVE JUST LET HITLER RUN ALL OVER US IN WORLD WAR II."

BY SHOWING THEM THE ACCOUNT OF DANIEL 4, AS WELL AS THE MANY OTHER PROPHECIES REGARDING WORLD EVENTS, IT BECOMES QUITE CLEAR THAT GOD WAS WELL AWARE OF HITLER'S COMING THOUGH IT MAY NOT HAVE NECESSARILY BEEN MENTIONED IN THE BIBLE AND GOD WOULD KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME WOULD BE. HE WOULD KNOW THAT THERE WOULD BE PLENTY OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT HOLD TO HIS PROHIBITION OF WAR AND THEY WOULD BE ENOUGH TO STOP HITLER UPON HIS ARRIVAL. MEANWHILE GOD'S TRUE FOLLOWERS WOULD STAY OUT OF IT ALL.

GOD WOULD HAVE FORESEEN THE SITUATION IF IT WAS TO BE ANOTHER WAY AND WOULD HAVE INSTRUCTED US ACCORDINGLY. BECAUSE OF WHAT WE LEARNED FROM NEBUCHADNEZZAR, WE CAN BE CONFIDENT OF THAT.

GOD IS IN COMPLETE TOTAL CONTROL OF EVERYTHING TO THE SMALLEST DETAIL. WE KNOW THAT, IN PART, BECAUSE OF THIS WONDERFUL ACCOUNT IN DANIEL 4. THIS ALONE IS A VERY LARGE IMPORTANT REASON FOR THIS ACCOUNT. IT DOES NOT NEED ANY MEANING LARGER OR MORE SIGNIFICANT THAN THIS ONE. IT IS QUITE ENOUGH BY ITSELF. LETS MOVE AWAY FROM THIS ACCOUNT AND EXAMINE SOME OF THE OTHER SCRIPTURES THAT SURROUND THIS DOCTRINE OF 1914.


DESOLATED FOR HOW LONG?
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ONE THING THAT IS CRITICAL TO ARRIVING AT THE DATE OF 1914 IS THE DATE 607 B.C.E. THIS DATE IS ACHIEVED BY ASSUMING THAT ISRAEL WAS HELD CAPTIVE IN BABYLON FOR 70 YEARS; AND, SINCE WE KNOW THAT THEY WERE RELEASED FROM CAPTIVITY IN 539 B.C.E., AND FIGURING A YEAR OR TWO FOR THE JOURNEY TO ISRAEL, IT WOULD BRING US TO THE DATE OF 537 B.C.E. AS THE YEAR ISRAEL TOUCHED THEIR HOME SOIL AGAIN. THEY WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN TAKEN CAPTIVE AND THE LAND LEFT DESOLATE IN 607 B.C.E. TO FULFILL 70 YEARS OF DESOLATION.

THE LAND BEING DESOLATE FOR 70 YEARS SEEMS NECESSARY TO THE SOCIETY BASED UPON SOME SCRIPTURES IN JEREMIAH, DANIEL, AND 2 CHRONICLES. THE FIRST ONE IS JEREMIAH 25:10-12. IT STATES:

"ALL THIS LAND (OF ISRAEL) MUST BECOME A DEVASTATED PLACE, AN OBJECT OF ASTONISHMENT, AND THESE NATIONS WILL HAVE TO SERVE THE KING OF BABYLON SEVENTY YEARS." WHO ARE "THESE NATIONS"?  THIS IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION SINCE THEY, THE NATIONS,  AND NOT ISRAEL ALONE, ARE THE ONES WHO COLLECTIVELY "SERVE" BABYLON FOR 70 YEARS. AND THIS IS A SEPARATE CONDITION NOT NECESSARILY CONNECTED WITH ISRAEL HAVING TO BECOME A DEVASTATED PLACE. I REPEAT, THE "LAND BEING DEVASTATED" AND THE "NATIONS SERVING 70 YEARS" ARE TWO SEPARATE DISTINCT PRONOUNCEMENTS.

ANOTHER OCCURRENCE IS IN JER.29:10 WHICH READS (IN THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION): "IN ACCORD WITH THE FULFILLING OF SEVENTY YEARS AT BABYLON I SHALL TURN MY ATTENTION TO YOU PEOPLE".

THE SOCIETY HAS ALWAYS BEEN PROUD OF THEIR CLAIM TO TRANSLATING THE SCRIPTURES WITHOUT THE BIAS THAT OTHER RELIGIONS HAVE SHOWN IN ORDER TO SUPPORT THEIR ERRONEOUS IDEAS. BUT I AM AFRAID THAT THE SOCIETY HAS FALLEN INTO THE SAME TRAP IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION. IN ORDER TO FAVOR THEIR 1914 DOCTRINE THEY HAVE TRANSLATED THAT LAST SCRIPTURE AS "AT" BABYLON RATHER THAN "FOR" BABYLON AS THE CASE RIGHTLY SHOULD BE.  NUMEROUS TRANSLATIONS CORRECTLY DO THIS INCLUDING:

THE AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION

THE NEW AMERICAN STANDARD VERSION

THE REVISED STANDARD VERSION

THE HOLY SCRIPTURES ACCORDING TO THE MASORETIC TEXT

MOFFATT'S TRANSLATION

THE GOOD NEWS BIBLE

AN AMERICAN TRANSLATION

THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE

YOUNG'S LITERAL TRANSLATION

THE NEW ENGLISH BIBLE

THE NEW INTERNATIONAL VERSION

BYINGTON'S TRANSLATION

THE INTERLINEAR BIBLE IN HEBREW/ENGLISH

ROTHERHAM'S EMPHASIZED BIBLE

THE JERUSALEM BIBLE

THE NEW JERUSALEM BIBLE

THE CATHOLIC CONFRATERNITY VERSION

THE NEW AMERICAN BIBLE

 

WHAT I SHOULD HAVE SAID WAS,  WHO DID NOT DO IT THIS WAY? :

NEW WORLD TRANSLATION

THE LIVING BIBLE

THE KING JAMES AUTHORIZED VERSION

DOUAY-RHIEMS VERSION

WOULDN'T YOU SAY THAT THIS TUG OF WAR IS PRETTY LOP-SIDED? THOSE THAT DO, OUT NUMBER THOSE THAT DO NOT, 18 TO 4.

IN "THE INTERLINEAR BIBLE IN HEBREW/ENGLISH", YOU WOULD FIND DIFFERENT HEBREW LETTERS FOR VARIOUS PREPOSITIONS LIKE: FOR, TO, TOWARD, IN, AT, ON, OVER, ETC. THE LETTER FOR "FOR" IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE(S) USED FOR "IN" OR "AT". IT IS A "FOR" THAT IS IN THE ORIGINAL HEBREW SCRIPTURES AND NOT AN "AT".

IT IS UNDERSTANDABLE HOW THOSE WHO TRANSLATED THE KING JAMES AUTHORIZED VERSION AND THE DOUAY-RHIEMS VERSION MADE THIS MISTAKE WITH THEIR LIMITED KNOWLEDGE OF THE LANGUAGES. AND THE LIVING BIBLE FOR ITS SOMETIMES HEAVY PARAPHRASING.  BUT IT IS NOT AT ALL UNDERSTANDABLE HOW THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION COMMITTEE COULD HAVE DONE THIS. EVERYWHERE ELSE THEY TRANSLATE THE "FOR" LETTER AS "FOR" EXCEPT FOR THIS ONE LITTLE PLACE. WHY? YOU TELL ME?

SOME OF THE TRANSLATIONS IN THE FIRST LIST WOULD PUT IT LIKE "WHEN BABYLON'S DAYS HAVE BEEN FULFILLED" OR "COMPLETED" OR SOMETHING SIMILAR. THE POINT IS THAT THE 70 YEARS WERE FOR BABYLON'S REIGN OVER ALL THE NATIONS IN THAT REGION OF THE WORLD. GOD WAS USING BABYLON AS HIS EXECUTIONER AND WOULD ALLOW THEIR REIGN FOR 70 YEARS AND THEN PUNISH THEM FOR THEIR HAUGHTINESS AND END THAT REIGN, THEREBY FREEING ISRAEL AND ALL THE OTHER CAPTIVES. NO MORE WOULD "THESE NATIONS" HAVE TO SERVE THE KING OF BABYLON.

USING "FOR" IN JER. 29 WOULD ALSO MAKE IT HARMONIOUS WITH JER. 25. WHICH IS CLEAR AND UNDISPUTED. AND WE WOULD EXPECT HARMONY AMONG THE SCRIPTURES, WOULDN'T WE?

"2 IN THE FIRST YEAR OF HIS (DARIUS') REIGNING I MYSELF, DANIEL, DISCERNED BY THE BOOKS THE NUMBER OF THE YEARS CONCERNING WHICH THE WORD OF JEHOVAH HAD OCCURRED TO JEREMIAH THE PROPHET, FOR FULFILLING THE DEVASTATIONS OF JERUSALEM, NAMELY, SEVENTY YEARS." DAN. 9:2.

YES, JERUSALEM WOULD BE DEVASTATED UNTIL BABYLON'S 70 YEARS HAD BEEN FULFILLED AS WE HAVE ALREADY COVERED IN JEREMIAH'S PROPHECY.

"20 FURTHERMORE, HE CARRIED OFF THOSE REMAINING FROM THE SWORD CAPTIVE TO BABYLON, AND THEY CAME TO BE SERVANTS TO HIM AND HIS SONS UNTIL THE ROYALTY OF PERSIA BEGAN TO REIGN;" 2 CHRON.36:20.

HERE WE SEE THEIR BEING CAPTIVE AND LET GO LINKED TO BABYLON'S REIGN BEING ENDED BY PERSIA. ON TO VERSE 21.

"21 TO FULFILL JEHOVAH'S WORD BY THE MOUTH OF JEREMIAH, UNTIL THE LAND HAD PAID OFF ITS SABBATHS. ALL THE DAYS OF LYING DESOLATED IT KEPT SABBATH, TO FULFILL SEVENTY YEARS."  2 CHRON.36:21.

"TO FULFILL SEVENTY YEARS" FOR WHOM OR WHAT? WE KNOW FROM EXAMINING JEREMIAH 25 AND 29 THAT "WHOM" IS BABYLON AND "WHAT" IS HER REIGN. AND THE LAND OF ISRAEL BEING DESOLATE WAS ONLY PART OF THAT FULFILLMENT TO BABYLON'S 70 YEARS. AND WHEN THOSE YEARS WERE FULFILLED AND COMPLETED THEN ISRAEL WOULD BE FREE TO RETURN BECAUSE OF BABYLON'S JUDGEMENT.

AND AFTER ALL, IT WAS JEREMIAH THAT EZRA WAS REFERRING TO IN THIS ACCOUNT AND JEREMIAH IS CLEAR EVEN IF THIS AND DANIEL ARE NOT QUITE AS CLEAR.

MY POINT TO ALL THIS IS THAT THE LAND OF ISRAEL WAS NOT REQUIRED TO BE DESOLATE FOR 70 YEARS AND, IN FACT, WAS NOT DESOLATE FOR THAT LENGTH OF TIME. IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE BIBLE DOES NOT REQUIRE ISRAEL TO BE DESOLATE FOR 70 YEARS THEN IT IS NO BIG DEAL IF HISTORIANS AND ARCHAEOLOGISTS STATE THAT ISRAEL WAS NOT DESOLATE FOR 70 YEARS. NEITHER CONTRADICTS THE OTHER. GREAT!

>> It should be now recognized that Babylon began conquering the other empires, starting with Assyria, in 609 BC. Babylon fell in 539 BC. You will note that this is 70 years, exactly. Dating is a funny business. Dating can often have many assumptions unproven within its calculations. But the dating of about 700 BC onward is fairly certain, thanks to astronomical dating, which is very tight and precise, so much so that many Bible Chronologists do not like it very much, since it contradicts their suppositions.

Most notable for astronomical observations were the latter Assyrians, Neo-Babylonians, and Persians and Medes. This is one of the most carefully calculated times in all history. These various empires of Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and even early Rome, all interacted with each other and left a fair amount of records behind. One good reason for this is their recording in baked clay, which is long lasting, if undisturbed, which it often ended up being. Ancient historical accounts survived in writing as well, from this time. These were largely dependent upon Greek and Latin Historians and what they recorded from previous civilizations.

These, with astronomical observations made by Mid East empires of king's reigns and activities, give us a solid accounting of time. It would be the worst time to try and temper with. On the other hand, it is the best time to figure time, otherwise. It also just happens to be the time when God no longer records events based on Judean kings, but instead switches to keeping time by the rulers of other nations, notably Babylon and Medo-Persia. God almost certainly did this to allow for an accurate chronology. Why? Because Jesus was foretold, in Daniel 9, that he would arrive in "69 weeks." for us to be able to calculate that, we would need kings' reigns, who were not Judean, since those were no longer reckoned by God or independent, either, nor was the Temple and Priesthood uninterrupted in that time.

So God chose the reigning empires of the day to form a trustworthy chronology. Again, many Bible chronologists do not like that since their figures are tainted with false doctrines and dates. But the truth is there is we want to go after it. But as well, we are informed by so called ante-nicene church fathers/writers, that the whole of mans' history would amount to about 6000 years, according to prophecy as related by the Apostles and Jesus. If this is so (I believe it is), then if we are near to the end, we should be in the neighborhood of about 6000 years.

As of 2013, we are 6019 years as a race and species, starting with Adam. Zephaniah warns us that if it seems to be delaying, the end, that is, that we should not lose faith or worry. I do not think 6000 was ever intended as an exact figure, though Bible Students (IBSA), so called and started by Charles Russell, use a twisted chronology to suggest yet another fulfillment at the 6000 year mark. But you can do better than the ISBA or is that IS-BS? I'll let you decide that ;-)
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IF WE LOOK AT THE BOOK OF EZRA 3:12, 13 WE OBSERVE THE REDEDICATING OF THE TEMPLE AFTER HAVING RETURNED FROM BABYLON.

12 "AND MANY OF THE PRIESTS AND THE LEVITES AND THE HEADS OF THE PATERNAL HOUSES, THE OLD MEN THAT HAD SEEN THE FORMER HOUSE, WERE WEEPING WITH A LOUD VOICE AT THE LAYING OF THE FOUNDATION OF THIS HOUSE BEFORE THEIR EYES, WHILE MANY OTHERS WERE RAISING THE VOICE IN SHOUTING FOR JOY."

13 "HENCE THE PEOPLE WERE NOT DISTINGUISHING THE SOUND OF THE SHOUT OF REJOICING FROM THE SOUND OF THE WEEPING OF THE PEOPLE, FOR THE PEOPLE WERE SHOUTING WITH A LOUD SHOUT, AND THE SOUND ITSELF WAS HEARD EVEN TO A GREAT DISTANCE."

NOW STOP AND THINK! THESE OLD MEN WHO "HAD SEEN THE FORMER HOUSE" OF SOLOMON; THEY ALL HAD TO BE OLDER THAN 70 TO REMEMBER SUCH A THING, WOULDN'T THEY? TO REMEMBER THE SPLENDOR OF THE OLD PLACE I WOULD SAY THEY HAD TO BE TEN THEN AND 80 NOW. AND THERE WERE SO MANY OF THESE 80 YEAR OLDS WEEPING THAT ONE COULD NOT DISCERN THE WEEPING FROM THE REJOICING, AND THE REJOICING WAS QUITE LOUD. DO YOU REALLY THINK THERE COULD BE THAT MANY 80 YEAR OLD MEN MAKING THAT MUCH NOISE, WHICH WOULD BE HARD FOR MEN OF THAT AGE ANYWAY? YOU'VE GOT TO BE JOKING!

BUT IF HISTORIANS AND CHRONOLOGISTS ARE RIGHT IN THAT ISRAEL WAS GONE FOR ONLY 50 YEARS (CAPTURED IN 587/586 B.C.E.), THEN IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE, FOR THEN YOU WOULD HAVE MEN IN THEIR 80'S, 70'S, 60'S, AND MAYBE LATE 50'S. THAT SEEMS A GOOD DEAL MORE BELIEVABLE.

THEREFORE, 50 YEARS OF CAPTIVITY WOULD SEEM MUCH MORE SCRIPTURAL AND LIKELY. THIS IS 20 YEARS LESS THAN THE SOCIETY FIGURES.

SO FROM THIS IT APPEARS THAT EVEN IF THERE WERE 2520 YEARS GIVEN TO THE GENTILE RULE, THE DATE WOULD NOT BE 1914 BUT 1934. AND I'M AFRAID THAT 1934 WAS NOT AT ALL A SIGNIFICANT YEAR DOWN HERE ON PLANET EARTH. (HEY! MAYBE 1975 SHOULD HAVE BEEN 1995! HA! JUST KIDDING!). SURELY YOU CAN SEE THE ABSURDITY OF ALL THESE DATES. AND THINK OF THIS!

WHY DID JEHOVAH HAVE TO GIVE US A DATE OR A YEAR IF HE KNEW THAT HIS SON WAS GOING TO BE GIVING US ALL SORTS OF SIGNS TO LOOK FOR TO DISCERN THE TIME WHEN HE WAS ABOUT TO ACT TO BRING ABOUT THE END? WEREN'T THE SIGNS ENOUGH? WAS KNOWING A DATE REALLY NECESSARY? WHY BOTHER WITH SIGNS IF YOU HAD A DATE? GOOD QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE ANY GOOD ANSWERS?

AFTER ALL THE DATE GOOFING THAT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAVE EXPERIENCED AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE RELIGIONS, TOO; WOULDN'T YOU THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THEM AND WOULD GIVE THEM UP ONCE AND FOR ALL TIME?  BUT APPARENTLY, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE GLUTTONS FOR PUNISHMENT.  THEY NEVER LEARN.

REMEMBER THIS SCRIPTURE? "CONCERNING THAT DAY AND HOUR NOBODY KNOWS, NEITHER THE ANGELS OF THE HEAVENS NOR THE SON, BUT ONLY THE FATHER." MATT.24:36. THIS SCRIPTURE ALONE SHOULD HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ENOUGH TO KEEP US AWAY FROM DATES BUT AS YOU CAN SEE . . .

THE ONLY THING LEFT TO COVER FROM THE SCRIPTURES, IF 1914 NOW SEEMS LIKE AN UNLIKELY DOCTRINE TO BELIEVE IN, ARE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES' IDEAS ABOUT CHRIST'S RETURN AND PRESENCE OR PAROUSIA;  AND WHAT, IF ANYTHING, HAPPENED DOWN HERE ON EARTH WHEN SATAN AND HIS ALLIES WERE OUSTED FROM HEAVEN. AND SOME MIGHT ASK: "WHAT ABOUT SCRIPTURES LIKE ISA. 2:2 THAT SHOW THE GATHERING DURING CHRIST'S PRESENCE OR THE RESURRECTION OF THE HEAVENLY FLOCK IN 1914 AND ONWARD AND OTHER SUCH IDEAS?"

WELL, OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THEM, TOO, ARE IN DANGER OF BECOMING OBSOLETE. THIS IS WHY THE SOCIETY DID NOT LIKE THIS NEW INFORMATION WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED TO THEM, BECAUSE IT WOULD NECESSITATE A LOT OF CHANGES AND RETHINKING ON MANY OF OUR IDEAS AND MANY MIGHT WONDER HOW WE GOT SO SIDE-TRACKED AT TIMES. RATHER THAN DEAL WITH THE OBVIOUS, IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE,  THEY FIGURED THAT THEY COULD SUPPRESS IT. WHY LET IT UPSET THEIR NICE LITTLE ARRANGEMENT THAT THEY HAD HAD FOR SO LONG?  I'M AFRAID THAT THEY HAVE BECOME A LITTLE TO OLD AND COMFORTABLE WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE AND NO LONGER WISH TO KEEP PROGRESSING TOWARD EVER INCREASING LIGHT AND TRUTH. TOO BAD FOR THEM.

AND YOU WOULD PROBABLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO SUGGEST FOR NEW UNDERSTANDINGS OF THESE DOCTRINAL IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP. THEY ARE DEALT WITH LATER IN PART 3 "CHRIST'S PRESENCE" AND PART 4 "IS JESUS CHRIST OUR MEDIATOR". THEY DEAL WITH ALL THE EVENTS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE HAPPENED IN 1914 AS WELL AS MANY THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON TODAY. AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE BE ABLE TO ANSWER EVERY LAST PIECE OF THE PUZZLE, OTHERWISE WE COULD BE AS WRONG AS THE SOCIETY.

YOU MIGHT ALSO BE INTERESTED IN THE BOOKLET "THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE" WHICH DEALS EXTENSIVELY WITH THAT SUBJECT AND THE EFFECTS THAT IT HAS ON 1914, CHRIST'S PRESENCE, AND THE LAST DAYS. BE SURE AND WRITE FOR IT TODAY.


THE ROCKS CRY OUT
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IT IS NECESSARY TO COVER A FEW POINTS DEALING WITH CHRONOLOGY AND ARCHAEOLOGY IN ESTABLISHING 587/586 B.C.E. AS THE DATE OF ISRAEL'S EXILE, ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT MANY DIFFERENT HISTORIANS OF CENTURIES AND MILLENNIUMS AGO ALL COINCIDE WITH THE YEAR 587 B.C.E. THE HISTORIAN JOSEPHUS ACKNOWLEDGES ISRAEL'S EXILE TO BE 50 YEARS STARTING IN 587 B.C.E.

WITH ABSOLUTELY NO EXAGGERATION, THERE HAVE BEEN HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CUNEIFORM TEXTS AND DOCUMENTS EXCAVATED IN MESOPOTAMIA (THE AREA OF ANCIENT BABYLON) SINCE THE 1850'S. THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THEM DEAL WITH ECONOMIC, FINANCIAL, BUSINESS, AND ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS SIMILAR TO THE CONTRACTS, BANK NOTES AND TRANSACTIONS, LEGAL PAPERS AND RECORDS, AND OTHER BUSINESS LIKE TRANSACTIONS THAT WE HAVE TODAY (THINGS REALLY HAVEN'T CHANGED THAT MUCH, HAVE THEY? - RED TAPE IS AN ALL PERVASIVE CHRONOLOGICAL CONSTANT).

THOUSANDS OF SUCH DATED (WITH THE YEAR OF THE REIGNING KING, AND THE MONTH, AND DAY) CUNEIFORM DOCUMENTS WERE UNEARTHED FROM THE NEO-BABYLONIAN PERIOD ALONE. THIS IS THE PERIOD WHEN BABYLON WAS THE REIGNING POWER OF THE AREA. DURING THE 1920'S ALONE, MORE THE 500 TABLETS DATED DURING THE REIGN OF NABONIDUS (THE LAST KING OF BABYLON WHO APPARENTLY CO-RULED WITH BELSHAZZAR) WERE PUBLISHED FOR STUDY. THERE EXIST MANY SUCH DATED TABLETS FOR EVERY SINGLE YEAR OF THE ENTIRE NEO-BABYLONIAN AGE/ERA/REIGN.

BECAUSE OF THE ABUNDANCE OF TEXT IN THIS INTENSELY DOCUMENTED ERA, MODERN SCHOLARS CAN PIN-POINT YEARS OF CHANGE IN KINGS AND SOMETIMES EVEN THE DAY (IT HAS BEEN DONE). THROUGH THIS THEY CAN CALCULATE THE REIGN OF EACH KING QUITE ACCURATELY AND ALSO THE LENGTH OF REIGN FOR THE ENTIRE EMPIRE, FROM ITS START TO ITS END. IMPRESSIVE, ISN'T IT?

I MENTION THIS BECAUSE THE SOCIETY INSERTS AN EXTRA 20 YEARS INTO THE REIGN OF NEBUCHADNEZZAR AND BABYLON IN ORDER TO SUPPORT ISRAEL'S BEING IN EXILE FOR 70 YEARS WHICH ALSO HAD TO HAVE THE 20 YEARS INSERTED INTO HISTORIANS FIGURES IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE ALL THIS. BUT THESE 20 YEARS CAN NOT BE FOUND IN ANY OF THESE MYRIADS OF DATED DOCUMENTS.

A GREAT NUMBER OF THESE UNEARTHED BUSINESS DOCUMENTS COME FROM "BANKING-HOUSES" THAT EXISTED IN ANCIENT BABYLON. ONE SUCH BANKING HOUSE BELONGED TO A FAMILY LINE NAMED "EGIBI." KNOWN AS "THE SONS OF EGIBI", THIS FIRM EXISTED PRIOR TO THE REIGN OF NEBUCHADNEZZAR ALL THE WAY THROUGH TO THE REIGN OF DARIUS I. IN OTHER WORDS, THIS BANKING FIRM EXISTED THROUGH THE FAMILY LINE AND COVERS MORE THAN A HUNDRED YEARS INCLUDING THE IMPORTANT YEARS WHEN BABYLON WAS THE REIGNING POWER. THIS IS GREAT FOR EVERYONE BUT THE SOCIETY. MIND YOU, IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE BIBLE OTHER THAN GIVING IT MORE CREDIBILITY BECAUSE THE BIBLE DOESN'T SUPPORT THE SOCIETY'S IDEA ANYWAY.

THESE TABLETS RELATED TO EVERY POSSIBLE COMMERCIAL TRANSACTION, FROM SMALL LOANS TO LARGE SALES AND MORTGAGES. AND GUESS WHAT? THAT'S RIGHT! YOU GUESS IT. THEY FIRMLY ESTABLISH THE REIGN OF EACH KING AND THEREFORE THE ENTIRE PERIOD OF BABYLONIAN DOMINANCE AND THERE WAS NO 20 YEARS TO BE FOUND ANYWHERE. AND IT ALL AGREED WITH WHAT THE HISTORIANS, ASTRONOMERS, AND OTHERS HAD BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG ANYWAY. SO MUCH FOR 70 YEARS EXILE AND 1914. PARTING IS SUCH SWEET SORROW.

AND ONCE AGAIN, THE EVER ENDURING BIBLE HAS SURVIVED ANOTHER ONSLAUGHT OF SCIENCE, RELIGION, HISTORY, AND ARCHAEOLOGY. WHEN WILL THEY EVER LEARN! YES MY FRIENDS, WE NEED NEVER TO FEAR FROM SCIENCE OF ANY KIND. IN THE END, THE ONLY THING THEY WILL END UP DOING IS GIVING MORE CREDIT AND SUPPORT TO THE BIBLE'S HOLY CAUSE . . . PROVIDED THAT WE DO NOT GET BOGGED DOWN IN RELIGIOUS DOGMA THAT HAS NO REAL FOUNDATION IN THE SCRIPTURES.


ZECHARIAH SAYS . . .
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IF YOU READ ZECHARIAH 1:7,12 AND 7:1-5, YOU WILL READ THAT "IN THE FORTH YEAR OF DARIUS THE KING," "ON THE FORTH DAY OF THE NINTH MONTH,"  "THE WORD OF JEHOVAH OCCURRED TO ZECHARIAH. THIS TIME CORRESPONDS WITH NOVEMBER OF 518 B.C.E. ACCORDING TO SECULAR AUTHORITIES. AND THE SOCIETY ADMITS IN THEIR BOOK "PARADISE RESTORED TO MANKIND", PG.235, IN SPEAKING ABOUT THE FAST IN THIS BIBLE ACCOUNT THAT WAS HELD IN NOVEMBER: "IT WAS OBSERVED EVIDENTLY ON THE TENTH DAY OF THAT MONTH (AB), IN ORDER TO COMMEMORATE HOW ON THAT DAY NEBUZARADAN, THE CHIEF OF NEBUCHADNEZZAR'S BODYGUARD, AFTER TWO DAYS OF INSPECTION, BURNED DOWN THE CITY OF JERUSALEM AND ITS TEMPLE. (JER. 52:12,13; - 2 KINGS 25:22-25)".

NOW IF SECULAR AUTHORITIES ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE FORTH YEAR OF DARIUS BEING 518 B.C.E. AND THE BURNING OF THE TEMPLE BY NEBUZARADAN IN AUGUST OF 587 B.C.E. THEN THAT WOULD MAKE ISRAEL'S FASTING IN THIS ACCOUNT IN ZECHARIAH TO BE 69 YEARS AND 4 MONTHS BETWEEN THE TWO EVENTS. THAT IS JUST 8 MONTHS SHY OF A FULL 70 YEARS, JUST AS THE BIBLE SAYS IN ZECHARIAH. I DON'T THINK YOU COULD CALL THEM A LIAR FOR 8 MONTHS OVER THAT LONG A PERIOD OF TIME. IN OTHER WORDS, SECULAR AUTHORITIES CONFIRM AND BACK THE SCRIPTURES RATHER THEN CONTRADICTING THEM. THE ONLY ONES CONTRADICTING THE SCRIPTURES AT THIS POINT ARE THE "BOYS IN BROOKLYN" WITH THEIR WARPED CHRONOLOGY BASED ON MISUNDERSTOOD PROPHECIES.

>> 69 years and 4 months is and concerns 70 years, the last being only partial. As well, to include 587 BC as a year acocuntable, you would subtract 518 from 588 or 517 from 587. It still works out to 70 years. Now this is supposed to be 19 years after Babylon fell, in 539 BC. Or 20 years from 538 BC. 538 to 518 is 20 years. If we accept the JW 607 BC date, then we have 90 years, when the Bible declares only 70. JWs even contradict the Bible and Zechariah, who speaks for Jehovah, I might add. JWs just ignore this like all other things that do not add up. I mean, why let facts get in the way, right? Poor souls!<<


CONCLUSION
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>> It should also be noted that other Bible Chronologies, such as the dates of the flood, exodus, kings, arrival of the Messiah as well as his death, all relate to each other and balance out. That is to say, they are inter-dependant upon each other. But as well, no one else has bothered to try to harmonize with tree ring dating, otherwise known as dendrochronology. I call it just dendro to shorten the word. Dendro notes a remarkable climate depression of about 7-9 years, as I recall, at about 2349/2350 BC or 4349/4350 Before 2000 AD.

Trying to determine a proper Bible chronology, without any outside considerations, was my constant goal. But I feel a great sense of accomplishment that my Bible Chronology yields the very same result that dendro does, with a year variance, depending on consideration of partial years and how to reckon them. Just recently, in a BAR article on their website, May 2013, JWs published a chronology exactly 20 years more than mine for a flood date. They likely just copied mine, the best there is (I'm such a humble guy, you notice), and then added their 20 supposed years due to their claimed 607 BC date.

IT IS HOPED THAT THIS BOOKLET HAS DEEPENED YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE SCRIPTURES AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, YOUR APPRECIATION AND DESIRE TO DIG DEEPER INTO THE BIBLE, AND DEVELOP GOOD STUDY HABITS. WITHOUT SUCH THINGS THIS WOULD NOT HAVE COME INTO EXISTENCE. AND KEEP IN MIND THAT KNOWLEDGE AND DOCTRINE ARE ALWAYS UNDERGOING CHANGES AND REFINEMENT AND AMOUNT TO PRECIOUS LITTLE COMPARED TO THE GREATEST OF PURSUANCES AND THE REASON FOR OUR EXISTING - LOVE. PRACTICE IT WHERE EVER YOU GO AND YOU WILL BE SUCCESSFUL. REMEMBER, ABOVE ALL ELSE, GOD IS LOVE.


 


THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE
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WHO REALLY IS THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE?  MATT. 24:45

THERE IS NOT A MORE IMPORTANT STATEMENT IN THE BIBLE AS FAR AS JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE CONCERNED. THIS COULD WELL BE CALLED THEIR MOST IMPORTANT DOCTRINAL INTERPRETATION FOR THIS IS THE ONE THAT THEY INTERPRET TO GIVE UNQUESTIONING AUTHORITY TO THEIR GOVERNING BODY WHOSE LOCATION IS IN BROOKLYN, NY. AND IT IS THIS BELIEF THAT HAS A TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THEIR LIVES AND THE LIVES OF THOSE AROUND THEM.

THIS DOCTRINE ALSO SEEMS TO BE THE STRONGEST OF ALL THEIR DOCTRINAL BELIEFS. THE ONE THAT THEY WOULD QUESTION LAST. THE ONE THEY BELIEVE IN MORE THAN ANY OTHER. IT IS NOT UNDERSTOOD BY MOST WHY THIS IS SO, BUT IT PROBABLY HAS A LOT TO DO WITH REPETITIVE TEACHING AND PROGRAMMING AS WELL AS A LITTLE BIT OF FEAR. IT DEFINITELY DESERVES A CLOSER LOOK BY BOTH THOSE INSIDE AND OUT OF THE RELIGION.

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES DOGMATICALLY ASSERT THAT IN MAT.24:45-47 JESUS PROMISED A FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE WHO WOULD BE APPOINTED OVER ALL JESUS' BELONGINGS HERE ON EARTH, WHEN JESUS WOULD ARRIVE IN 1914. THIS, OF COURSE, DEPENDS ON THE VALIDITY OF THE 1914 DOCTRINE AS WELL AS THE "FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE" DOCTRINE.

A SIMILAR ACCOUNT OF THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE OF MATT.24:45 IS TO BE FOUND IN LUKE 12:42 WHERE IT ASKS: "WHO REALLY IS THE FAITHFUL STEWARD, THE DISCREET ONE"?


PROMISES, PROMISES
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FIRST, DID JESUS PROMISE A FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE?

SECOND, WHO IS THE FAITHFUL SLAVE? IS HE AN INDIVIDUAL, MANY DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS, OR A SINGLE COLLECTIVE GROUP REPRESENTING THE "FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE" AS JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES CLAIM?

THIRD, DO THEY RECEIVE APPOINTMENT AT JESUS' SUPPOSED ARRIVAL IN 1914 OR IS IT REFERRING TO JESUS' LATER ARRIVAL, THE ONE THAT BRINGS THE FINAL END WITH APPOINTMENTS BEING MADE AFTERWARDS.

IF 1914 CAN BE DISPROVED, THEN THAT ALONE WOULD REQUIRE SOME REWORKING OF THEIR IDEAS, FOR JESUS' APPOINTMENT COULD NOT, THEN, HAVE TAKEN PLACE IN 1914 AND WOULD REQUIRE ANOTHER CHOICE OF TIME. WE STRONGLY RECOMMEND YOU SENDING FOR OUR BOOKLET ENTITLED "A SECOND LOOK AT THE LAST DAYS". THIS BOOKLET RE-EXAMINES 1914 AND A HOST OF OTHER SUBJECTS DEALING WITH THE LAST DAYS.

WE ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEE THAT YOU WILL FIND THE INFORMATION IT PRESENTS TO BE VERY SCRIPTURAL AND VERY ENLIGHTENING. WE CAN NOT IMAGINE ANYONE NOT BEING IMPRESSED BY THE POINTS BROUGHT FORTH IN ITS PAGES. WRITE FOR YOUR COPY RIGHT AWAY!

LET US FIRST ADDRESS THE QUESTION OF WHETHER JESUS' STATEMENT APPLIES TO A PERSON, MANY PERSONS, OR A COLLECTIVE GROUP. IF THIS CAN BE CLEARED UP THEN THE REST OF THE ARGUMENTS ARE EASIER TO ADJUST. PUT ANOTHER WAY, THIS IS THE STRONGEST PART OF THE ARGUMENT AND IF IT CAN NOT STAND THEN CERTAINLY THE REST WILL FALL EASIER IF THEY ARE TO FALL AT ALL.

OBSERVE HOW THE TWO VERSES THAT PRECEDE MAT.24:45 (43, 44) SHOW JESUS SPEAKING TO ALL THOSE LISTENING. THE NEW WORLD TRANSLATION USES "YOU" IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS INDICATING THAT "YOU" IS ADDRESSING THE PLURAL SENSE OF THE WORD, INDICATING, POSSIBLY, AN INTENDED LARGE AUDIENCE EVEN THOUGH ONLY HIS DISCIPLES WERE PRESENT WHEN HE WAS ADDRESSING THESE TOPICS. BUT THE DISCIPLES, NAMELY MATTHEW, RECORDED IT IN WRITING FOR US. WHY?  BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY IT WAS MEANT TO BE READ AND KNOWN BY US. FOR THE INFORMATION HE GAVE TO THEM WAS A LOT MORE RELEVANT TO US THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TO THEM.

THE WARNING IN BOTH MAT:24:44 AND LUKE 12:40 IS "YOU (PLURAL) ALSO, KEEP ON THE WATCH, BE READY, BECAUSE AT AN HOUR THAT YOU DO NOT EXPECT, AN HOUR THAT YOU DO NOT THINK LIKELY, THE SON OF MAN IS COMING." (I COMBINED THE ACCOUNTS OF MATTHEW AND LUKE IN CASE YOU HAVE NOTICED THE WORDING NOT MATCHING UP TO JUST ONE ACCOUNT).

WHO WAS JESUS MORE THAN LIKELY SPEAKING FOR THE BENEFIT OF?  THOSE THEN, WHO WOULD NOT SEE JESUS' RETURN, OR WE, THE LIVING, WHO WOULD SURVIVE TO THE END TO SEE HIS ARRIVAL AND RETURN?  THE ANSWER IS OBVIOUS, ISN'T IT? TO WHICH GROUP WOULD THE INFORMATION BE MORE IMPORTANT AND USEFUL TO? WOULD YOU NOT AGREE THAT IT WOULD BE US WHO ARE LIVING IN THE TIME OF THE END?

WITHOUT ANY CHANGE OR HESITATION IN THE WRITING OF THESE ACCOUNTS, JESUS MOVES RIGHT INTO THE TOPIC OF THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE. HE MENTIONS THE FAITHFUL SLAVE WHO HAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF RESPONSIBILITY IN CARING FOR HIS FELLOW SLAVES WHOM HIS MASTER LEFT HIM IN CHARGE OF TO CARE FOR.  JESUS SAID: "HAPPY IS THAT SLAVE IF HIS MASTER ON ARRIVING [RETURNING] FINDS HIM DOING SO."

JESUS SAYS "IF". IS "IF" A PROMISE? A GUARANTEE? SOUNDS PRETTY ("IFFY") CONDITIONAL TO ME. AT THE VERY LEAST, IT SEEMS QUITE DIFFICULT TO SUGGEST FROM THIS THAT WE COULD COUNT ON, EVEN STAKE OUR LIVES ON, THE EXISTENCE OF A "FAITHFUL SLAVE" AND GIVE "HIM" UNQUESTIONED OBEDIENCE.

JESUS THEN MENTIONS THAT IF, INDEED,  HE FOUND SUCH A SLAVE, THAT THE MASTER WOULD APPOINT THIS SLAVE OVER ALL HIS BELONGINGS. IT COULD BE SUPPOSED THAT IF A SLAVE WERE APPOINTED OVER ALL THE MASTER'S BELONGINGS THAT IT COULD ONLY BE ONE SLAVE. COULD BE!  IN FACT, WITHOUT FURTHER CLARIFICATION, THIS WOULD BE THE MOST LIKELY CONCLUSION THAT AN OBJECTIVE MAN WOULD PROBABLY COME TO;  I REPEAT, WITHOUT FURTHER CLARIFICATION.

HOWEVER, UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE SOCIETY, IT WAS FURTHER CLARIFIED BY JESUS IN WHAT CAME RIGHT AFTERWARDS. HE THEN SAYS IN MAT.24:48: "BUT IF EVER THAT EVIL SLAVE ...". THE WAY JESUS USES "THAT" SEEMS TO SUGGEST THAT HE IS STILL REFERRING TO THE SLAVE THAT HE FIRST TALKED ABOUT AS BEING FAITHFUL AND DISCREET "IF"... BUT NOW HE IS REFERRING TO HIM AS EVIL. PUZZLED?  WELL, THE SLAVE WOULD BE EVIL IF WHEN THE MASTER RETURNED HE FOUND THE SLAVE NOT CARING FOR THE OTHER SLAVES THAT HE WAS LEFT IN CHARGE OF AND INSTEAD HAS TURNED TO ABUSING AND MISTREATING THEM.  HE WOULD NOT ONLY BE JUDGED EVIL BUT WOULD BE PUNISHED WITH THE GREATEST SEVERITY. VERY SOBERING, ISN'T IT?


THE NEW KID IN TOWN
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  THE ACCOUNT IN LUKE CARRIES THIS A FEW STEPS FURTHER. IN LUKE 12:48 JESUS INTRODUCES US TO A THIRD SLAVE NOT MENTIONED IN MATTHEW'S ACCOUNT. THIS SLAVE DID SOME THINGS THAT MERITED THE MASTER'S DISCIPLINE, BUT BECAUSE THE INDISCRETIONS WERE DONE INNOCENTLY, WITHOUT KNOWING BETTER, THE SLAVE WOULD ONLY BE MILDLY PUNISHED AND, I ASSUME, ALLOWED TO REMAIN AS PART OF THE MASTER'S HOUSEHOLD OF SERVANTS.

NOW THE SOCIETY SAYS THAT THE FAITHFUL SLAVE AND THE EVIL SLAVE REPRESENT TWO GROUPS OR CLASSES. IF THIS IS TRUE THEN SURELY THE "INDISCREET SLAVE" ( THIS IS THE NAME WE WILL GIVE TO THE SLAVE WHO WAS ONLY MILDLY DISCIPLINED AND THE NAME WE WILL USE TO REFER TO HIM FROM HERE ON IN )  MUST ALSO HAVE A GROUP REPRESENTING HIM. BUT TO THIS DAY, NO SUCH GROUP HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THE SOCIETY.  IN FACT, THEY DO NOT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THIS SLAVE'S PRESENCE. WHY?  MAYBE YOU COULD TELL ME? ONE THING THAT IS FOR SURE, IT WOULD CAUSE SOME PROBLEMS WITH THEIR DOCTRINES.

FIRST, IT MIGHT INDICATE THAT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES TO BE SAVED. OR IT MIGHT BRING INTO QUESTION WHETHER THE SLAVES ARE REPRESENTED BY GROUPS OR PERHAPS JUST INDIVIDUALS.  AND IF THE "INDISCREET SLAVE"  DOES HAVE A GROUP IN REPRESENTATION THEN WHO WOULD THAT BE?  IT COULD EVEN SUGGEST THAT THERE ARE GROUPS, BUT THAT THEY ARE NOT PROMISED TO BE EITHER FAITHFUL OR EVIL BUT INSTEAD COULD BE EITHER OR ANYTHING IN BETWEEN. IT LEAVES EVERYTHING WIDE OPEN TO SAY THE LEAST AND IT IS BEST FOR THE SOCIETY,  IF THEY JUST IGNORE HIM ALTOGETHER, AS THEY USUALLY DO WITH ANYTHING TOO HOT TO HANDLE.

BUT THE SCRIPTURES DO NOT REALLY LEAVE US WITH ANY DOUBT, FOR AS THE REST OF LUKE 12:48 SHOWS: "INDEED, EVERYONE TO WHOM MUCH WAS GIVEN, MUCH WILL BE DEMANDED OF HIM; AND THE ONE WHOM PEOPLE PUT IN CHARGE OF MUCH, THEY WILL DEMAND MORE THAN USUAL OF HIM." JESUS HERE SHOWS THAT MANY WILL HAVE RESPONSIBILITY OF SOME MEASURE, AND THEY WILL BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT WAS LAID IN THEIR TRUST. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT JESUS WENT ON TO SHOW US IN MATTHEW AS WELL.

IMMEDIATELY AFTER TALKING ABOUT THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE ACCOUNT (IN THE BOOK OF MAT.24:45-51), JESUS GOES RIGHT INTO THE ILLUSTRATION OF THE "FOOLISH AND DISCREET VIRGINS" AND OF THE "SLAVES AND THEIR TALENTS". PLEASE ALLOW ME TO DIVERT THE ATTENTION HERE FOR JUST A MOMENT.

IN THE PARABLE OF THE 5 FOOLISH AND THE 5 DISCREET VIRGINS, JESUS WAS ONLY TRYING TO MAKE A SINGULAR, SIMPLE, BUT VERY CRITICAL POINT ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE SHOULD NOT WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE TO PREPARE FOR THE "MASTER'S" (BRIDEGROOM'S) ARRIVAL BUT SHOULD BE WELL FORTIFIED AND PREPARED - WELL IN ADVANCE. THERE WILL BE LITTLE (NOT ENOUGH) TIME TO GET READY IF WE WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE. WE WILL BE CAUGHT SHORT AND MISS OUT, ULTIMATELY, ON LIFE, ITSELF.

THE SOCIETY, ON THE OTHER HAND, INTERPRETS EVERY LITTLE SIGN AND SYMBOL IN THE ILLUSTRATION TO HAVE SOME VERY IMPORTANT SIGNIFICANCE, BUT THEY ARE WRONG. JESUS MADE ILLUSTRATIONS AND PARABLES WITH THE SIMPLE, COMMON MAN IN MIND, SO THAT EVEN THE LOWLIEST OF PEOPLE COULD UNDERSTAND EVEN THE DEEP THINGS OF GOD. THE THINGS THAT, AT LEAST WOULD BE IMPORTANT AND NECESSARY TO UNDERSTAND FOR OUR SURVIVAL INTO A "NEW ORDER" OF THINGS { THAT IS THEIR WORDING FOR GOD'S KINGDOM }. THEREFORE, THE SOCIETY'S DEEP, COMPLEX INTERPRETATIONS OF INSIGNIFICANT DETAILS REALLY HAVE NO JUSTIFICATION FOR THEIR EXISTENCE. LET'S RETURN TO THE FORMER TRAIN OF THOUGHT.

NOW BACK TO OUR FORMER LINE OF THOUGHT. IN MAT. 25 WE READ THAT WE SHOULD BE VIGILANT AND PREPARED (EARLY, WELL IN ADVANCE)  FOR JESUS' RETURN WHICH COULD BE AT ANY TIME "INTO THE NIGHT" AND THEN ARE DRAWN TO AN ACCOUNT OF THREE SLAVES WHO WERE SUMMONED BY THEIR MASTER AND ENTRUSTED WITH VARIOUS AMOUNTS OF RESPONSIBILITY IN THE FORM OF MONEY, WHICH THEY WERE TO INVEST AND CARE FOR IN THE ABSENCE OF THEIR MASTER WHO HAD TO TRAVEL ABROAD FOR A WHILE.  UPON THE MASTER'S RETURN,  THE SLAVES WOULD HAVE AN ACCOUNTING WITH HIM, TO REPORT ON THEIR HOLDINGS OF HIS FOR WHICH THEY WERE LEFT TO GAIN PROFIT WITH ( THIS ACCOUNT IS IN MAT.25:14-30 ).

AFTER A LONG TIME, THE MASTER RETURNS AND SETTLES THE ACCOUNTS WITH HIS SLAVES. TWO OF HIS SLAVES HAVE SHOWN THEMSELVES TO BE FAITHFUL AND CAPABLE WITH WHAT THEIR MASTER ENTRUSTED THEM WITH AND WERE ABLE TO RETURN TO HIM A PROFIT FROM HIS INVESTMENT WITH THEM. AS A REWARD FOR THEIR FAITHFULNESS AND DEMONSTRATED ABILITY, HE ENTRUSTS THEM WITH EVEN MORE OF HIS BELONGINGS AND SHOWS HIS TRUST AND CONFIDENCE IN THEM.

THIS WOULD BE SIMILAR TO SOMEONE IN OUR DAY AND AGE SHOWING HIMSELF AS A GOOD, RELIANT, FAITHFUL AND CAPABLE MANAGER OR SUPERVISOR IN A COMPANY OR CORPORATION AND BEING PROMOTED TO THE PRESIDENT OF ONE OF THE COMPANY'S DIVISIONS OR BUSINESS VENTURES.

BUT THE OTHER SLAVE, THE LAST ONE, SHOWED HIMSELF TO BE LAZY, SLUGGISH, UNFAITHFUL, AND IRRESPONSIBLE BY NOT EVEN DROPPING THE MONEY IN A BANK TO EARN INTEREST AND WHICH WOULD HAVE REQUIRED NO WORK OR EFFORT. INSTEAD, HE BURIES IT IN THE GROUND AND RETURNS IT TO HIS MASTER WITHOUT ANY PROFIT, EVEN THOUGH HE HIMSELF ADMITTED TO HIS MASTER THAT HE UNDERSTOOD HIS MASTER'S INTENTIONS AND DISPOSITION, IN THAT HIS MASTER WAS A HARSH, DEMANDING PERSON WHO WANTED PROFIT. SO HE WAS PUNISHED WITH THE GREATEST OF SEVERITY ( SYMBOLIC FOR HIS DEATH ) BY BEING RELIEVED OF HIS DUTIES AND SERVICE TO HIS MASTER (YOU MIGHT SAY, FIRED BY THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY) AND HIS RESPONSIBILITY WAS GIVEN TO THE OTHER SLAVES WHO HAD ALREADY SHOWN THEMSELVES TO BE QUITE CAPABLE.

JESUS THEN GOES ON TO SAY IN VERSE 29: "FOR TO EVERYONE THAT HAS, MORE WILL BE GIVEN AND HE WILL HAVE ABUNDANCE; BUT AS FOR HIM THAT DOES NOT HAVE, EVEN WHAT HE HAS WILL BE TAKEN AWAY FORM HIM."

HERE TOO, JESUS SHOWS THAT IN REFERRING TO SLAVES, THAT MANY WOULD HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES, AND THAT THEY WOULD ALL HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR WHAT THEY HAD DONE WITH THEIR "GIFTS, TALENTS, AND ABILITIES" IN BEHALF OF THE "MASTER'S" INTERESTS. THOSE WHO SHOW CARELESS OR RECKLESS DISREGARD FOR WHAT HAS BEEN LEFT IN THEIR TRUST, WILL HAVE ANSWER FOR THAT, POSSIBLY WITH THEIR LIVES IF THEY KNOW BETTER.

WHAT SEEMS CLEAR TO ME THROUGH ALL THIS IS THAT JESUS WAS INDICATING FROM ALL THE SCRIPTURES CONSIDERED TOGETHER, ( IS THERE ANY OTHER WAY TO DO IT? ) THAT A SLAVE WILL BE JUDGED TO BE EITHER FAITHFUL OR EVIL OR SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.  AND BEING FAITHFUL WOULD SEEM TO BE THE MOST PRUDENT COURSE TO STRIVE FOR, WOULDN'T YOU SAY? AND FURTHER SHOWN IS THAT MANY WOULD HAVE SUCH RESPONSIBILITIES AS CARING FOR THEIR FELLOW SLAVES ( BELIEVERS; BROTHERS AND SISTERS ) AND THEY WOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR HOW THEY CARED FOR THESE PRECIOUS BELONGINGS OF JESUS' THAT WERE GIVEN TO HIM BY HIS FATHER.

THIS IS NOT UNLIKE THE ACCOUNTS OF ISAIAH, JEREMIAH, AND EZEKIEL THAT WARN SHEPHERDS OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT ACCOMPANIES IT.  AND JAMES REMINDS ALL, "NOT MANY OF YOU SHOULD BECOME TEACHERS, MY BROTHERS, KNOWING THAT WE SHALL RECEIVE HEAVIER JUDGMENT." JAS.3:1. PUT ANOTHER WAY, "IF YOU CAN'T STAND THE HEAT, GET OUT OF THE KITCHEN!"

THE NEXT BIG QUESTION?  WAS "THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE" EVER PROPHESIED, FORSHADOWED, PREFIGURED, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE BIBLE, OR BY JESUS?

               NO!

YEAH, I CAN BE DOGMATIC, TOO! BUT I CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE IN THE BIBLE WHERE IT IS PLAINLY AND OBVIOUSLY SPEAKING OF A PROMISED FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE.

NOW, IF I HAVEN'T CONVINCED YOU OF THE SOCIETY'S UNRIGHTFUL CLAIM TO BEING THE "FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE" THEN PERHAPS I CAN QUESTION THEIR APPOINTMENT THAT THEY CLAIM THEY RECEIVED IN 1914.

IN PART 3 "1914 RE-EXAMINED", OF OUR BOOKLET "A SECOND LOOK AT THE LAST DAYS", I FEEL THERE IS AMPLE REASON GIVEN TO DISPROVE 1914. BUT FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT OR YOUR LACK OF BEING CONVINCED BY THAT BOOKLET WE WILL SUPPOSE THAT 1914 IS TRUE.


ARE WE CONFUSED?
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AS THE SOCIETY WOULD HAVE IT, JESUS RETURNED TO KINGDOM POWER IN 1914 AND BEGAN RULING. UPON HIS RETURN, HE PASSED JUDGEMENT ON HIS SERVANT, THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE, AND PUNISHED HIM FOR SOME INDISCRETIONS (SAY, MAYBE WE HAVE FOUND THE "INDISCREET SLAVE" AFTER ALL!) AND 3 AND A HALF YEARS LATER FOUND THEM REPENTANT, JUDGED THEM AS FAITHFUL AND DOING HIS WILL, AND APPOINTED THEM OVER ALL HIS EARTHLY BELONGINGS.

THE SOCIETY CONSIDERS IT NECESSARY FOR JESUS TO INITIALLY FIND THEM UNFAITHFUL SO THAT PROPHECIES IN ISAIAH AND EZEKIEL CAN BE APPLIED TO THEM (THESE ARE THE PROPHECIES OF ISRAEL'S CAPTURE, EXILE, RETURN, AND RESTORATION). OTHERWISE THESE PROPHECIES WOULD HAVE APPLICATION TO ANCIENT ISRAEL AND A YET TO BE FULFILLED PROPHECY WHICH WOULD HAVE A MORE LIKELY APPLICATION WITH EVENTS SURROUNDING ARMAGEDDON AS OPPOSED TO THEM APPLYING TO THE FAITHFUL SLAVE IN 1914.

BUT FINDING THEM WITH ERROR IN 1914 CONFLICTS WITH APPLICATION OF THE FAITHFUL SLAVE ILLUSTRATION. JESUS NEVER MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT FINDING THEM ONE WAY AND CHANGING THEM WITH CHASTISEMENT. NO, BUT HE DEALS WITH THEM IN THE STATE THAT HE FINDS THEM IN AND THE ILLUSTRATION ENDS THERE. NO MENTION OF REFORM.

WHAT I AM SAYING, IS, THAT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO APPLY THE PROPHECIES OF ISAIAH AND EZEKIEL TO THEM AND ALSO APPLY THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE ILLUSTRATION TO THEM. THE TWO ARE NOT COMPATIBLE. SO WHICH ONE DO WE GET RID OF?

NOW AFTER 3 AND A HALF YEARS THEY ARE FREED AND APPOINTED OVER ALL JESUS' BELONGINGS. 3 AND A HALF YEARS ARE NECESSARY TO FULFILL THE 3 AND HALF DAYS MENTIONED IN REVELATION 11:9. AND, BY THE WAY, REVELATION 11 IS SIMILAR TO THE PROPHECIES OF ISAIAH AND EZEKIEL, AND IS SUPPOSED TO FULFILL EVENTS IN 1914 BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT THEY HAVE YET TO BE FULFILLED.

HERE IS THE HARD PART, FOLKS. DURING THIS 3 AND HALF YEARS, THE FAITHFUL SLAVE (SPIRITUAL, SYMBOLIC ISRAEL) IS IN CAPTIVITY. IF THEY WERE IN CAPTIVITY THE ENTIRE TIME FROM THEIR DAY OF JUDGEMENT FROM THE MASTER TILL THEIR RELEASE, THEN THEY WOULD NOT HAVE HAD ANY CHANCE TO DO ANYTHING TO PROVE THEMSELVES REPENTANT AND FAITHFUL. JESUS WOULD HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO RENDER ANY JUDGEMENT AND CERTAINLY WOULD NOT HAVE APPOINTED THEM OVER ALL HIS BELONGINGS.

BUT THIS IS NEARLY AS HARD TO STOMACH AS WHAT FOLLOWS. JESUS ILLUSTRATION OF THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE IS AN ACCOUNTING THAT TAKES PLACE AT THE TIME OF HIS RETURN AND SETTLING OF ALL ACCOUNTS - I.E. JUDGEMENT DAY. (BY ALL MEANS BE SURE TO SEND FOR OUR BOOKLET "A SECOND LOOK AT THE LAST DAYS" WHICH DISCUSSES THIS TOPIC IN MUCH MORE DEPTH). IT IS THE FINAL REWARD, THE FINAL RESULTS. THIS IS WHERE THE "EVIL SLAVE" RECEIVES HIS EVERLASTING TORMENT, THE SECOND DEATH.

THE SOCIETY SAYS, HOWEVER, THAT THEY HAD BEGUN RULING AS KINGS (THEY SAY THIS IN "GOD'S KINGDOM OF A THOUSAND YEARS" BOOK, PG.355, PARAGRAPH 51). YEAH, I KNOW SOME OTHERS THAT ONCE SAID THAT IN 1 CORINTHIANS 4:8. AND TAKE A LOOK AT 2ND THESSALONIANS 2:1,2:

"HOWEVER, BROTHERS, RESPECTING THE PRESENCE OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST AND OUR BEING GATHERED TOGETHER TO HIM, WE REQUEST OF YOU NOT TO BE QUICKLY SHAKEN FROM YOUR REASON NOR TO BE EXCITED EITHER THROUGH AN INSPIRED EXPRESSION OR THROUGH A VERBAL MESSAGE OR THROUGH A LETTER AS THOUGH FROM US, TO THE EFFECT THAT THE DAY OF JEHOVAH IS HERE."

I THINK PAUL SAID IT BETTER THAN I COULD.


GET YOUR HIP BOOTS OUT
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I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAVE THE BEST FOR LAST AND HERE IT IS. ACCORDING TO THE SOCIETY'S INTERPRETATION, THE LORD APPOINTS THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE BEFORE HIS LEAVING (PG.342, PARA.23 OF "GOD'S KINGDOM OF A THOUSAND YEARS" HEREAFTER ABBREVIATED AS G.K.O.A.T.Y. AND THIS WAS CONFIRMED AT THE LATEST '89' DISTRICT ASSEMBLY) AND THIS COMPOSITE SLAVE CLASS HAS EXISTED FROM THAT TIME TILL THE PRESENT. REALLY? THAT IS WHAT THEY SAY! BUT LOOK HOW THEY SAY IT!

G.K.O.A.T.Y., PG.344, PARA.29: "AS TO JUST HOW THE 'FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE' CLASS EXISTED AND SERVED DOWN THROUGH THE CENTURIES AFTER THE DEATH OF THE APOSTLES OF THE MASTER JESUS CHRIST, WE DO NOT HAVE A DISTINCT HISTORICAL PICTURE."

BOY!  AND TO THINK THEY HAVE THE NERVE TO CRITICIZE OTHERS OF "DOUBLE SPEAK." THAT HAS TO BE ONE OF THE WORST CASES I HAVE EVER SEEN. AND IT IS EXACTLY THE SAME THING THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SAYS ABOUT THE SUCCESSION OF POPES STARTING FROM THE APOSTLE PETER. THEY, IN ESSENCE, SAY THAT AS REGARDS HOW THE OFFICE WAS PASSED ON FROM PETER TO CONSTANTINE. . . WELL, THEY DO NOT HAVE A DISTINCT HISTORICAL PICTURE. OH, BUT IT DID HAPPEN, WE'RE SURE!!

THE PLAIN TRUTH OF THE MATTER, MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS, IS THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO ROOM FOR WHAT THE SOCIETY SAYS. IT DOESN'T FIT, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU TURN TO LOOK AT IT. THERE IS NO HISTORICAL PICTURE TO BE HAD OR VEILED. IT DOES NOT EXIST. PERIOD!

THE POINT OF JESUS' ILLUSTRATION OF THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE WAS THAT WHEN HE FINALLY CAME BACK AND MADE HIS ACCOUNTING (JUDGEMENT), THAT EVERYONE HOLDING ANY SORT OF RESPONSIBILITY WOULD HAVE TO MAKE AN ACCOUNTING OF HOW HE HANDLED IT AND THAT THIS ASSESSMENT WOULD BE A SEVERE ONE.

THOSE FOUND IN CHARGE AT THE TIME OF HIS RETURN WOULD NOT BE THE ONES ORIGINALLY LEFT WITH IT BUT WOULD BE PICKED UP BY OTHERS IN LATER PERIODS THROUGHOUT HISTORY DOWN TILL THE PRESENT WITH NO SPECIFIC CONNECTED LINEAGE IN THE HANDING DOWN OF THIS RESPONSIBILITY.

THE FOCUS OF THE ILLUSTRATION WAS THE RESPONSIBILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY AND NOT WHO SPECIFICALLY WOULD HAVE IT. WHOEVER WAS IN POSSESSION OF IT WOULD HAVE ANSWER FOR IT AND JESUS GAVE THEM FAIR WARNING WITH THIS ILLUSTRATION.

SEEMS PLAIN AND SIMPLE ENOUGH DOESN'T IT. SOMETHING THAT A PLAIN, SIMPLE, ORDINARY MAN COULD UNDERSTAND AND GRASP WITHOUT DIFFICULTY. NO LONG DRAWN OUT EXPLANATIONS SUCH AS THE SOCIETY IS SO FOND OF.

AT THE 1986 DISTRICT ASSEMBLY IT WAS MENTIONED IN A TALK THAT APOSTATES WERE "FIGURATIVELY KILLED AS JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" WITH THE RELEASE OF "THE FINISHED MYSTERY" BOOK BY RUTHERFORD AND COMPANY. IT WAS DESCRIBED AS "A TIME OF TESTING AND SIFTING." (AND I BELIEVE THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE NAME OF THE TALK).

I ASK: "WAS JESUS REFERRING TO A FIGURATIVE DEATH OF THE "EVIL SLAVE" OR WAS HE DESCRIBING WHAT WOULD BE A VERY REAL DEATH FOR THIS SLAVE? AND IF THESE APOSTATES WHO REPRESENTED THE EVIL SLAVE, DIED BACK THEN, THEN THEY CAN NOT EXIST NOW, SINCE THEY ARE DEAD. SENTENCE HAS ALREADY BEEN PASSED. IT IS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO PASS THE SENTENCE OF KINGSHIP AND REWARD TO THE FAITHFUL SLAVE AT THAT TIME.

YOU CAN NOT HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT, TOO. HAS SENTENCE ALREADY BEEN PASSED OR IS IT YET TO HAPPEN? IF IT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED THEN IT CAN NOT BE WHAT THEY SAY IT IS NOW, WITH TWO CLASSES EXISTING. I AM, OF COURSE, USING THEIR OWN LAWYER-PHARISEE LIKE TACTICS AGAINST THEM. THEY SEEM TO LIKE THESE KIND OF TACTICS SO MUCH.

NOW IF WE CAN NO LONGER APPLY THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE ILLUSTRATION TO THEM, AND IF 1914 CAN NOT APPLY, THEN IT KIND OF LEAVES THE PROPHECIES OF REVELATION, ISAIAH, AND EZEKIEL AS NOT HAVING ANY LIKELY APPLICATION, EITHER. THOSE PROPHECIES WOULD HAVE TO WAIT FOR AN AS YET UNFULFILLED OCCURRENCE. HOW WOULD I INTERPRET THEM? I WOULDN'T!

ABRAHAM, ISAIAH, DANIEL, AND OTHERS WERE GIVEN PROPHECIES BY GOD BUT DID NOT UNDERSTAND THEM WHEN THEY WERE RECEIVED AND MOST NEVER RECEIVED AN UNDERSTANDING BUT WERE TOLD THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO WAIT. THE SAME APPLIES TO US. WHEN IT HAPPENS WE WILL KNOW IT BUT UNTIL THEN WE WILL HAVE TO TRUST IN GOD LIKE OTHER FAITHFUL ONES HAVE DONE IN PAST TIMES.

YES, I KNOW THE SOCIETY LIKES TO STICK THEIR NECKS OUT AND INTERPRET EVERYTHING AND PREDICT EVERY LITTLE OUTCOME AND WHATEVER ELSE. BUT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, THEY END UP GETTING THEIR NECKS CUT OFF AND LOOKING FOOLISH. AND WHAT IS MORE, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT EVERY LITTLE FULFILLMENT WILL MEAN IS NOT REALLY SCRIPTURAL AS I EXPLAINED IN THE PREVIOUS PARAGRAPH. LET US JUST SIT BACK AND WAIT AND SEE. THAT IS THE TRUE CHRISTIAN WAY.


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I KNOW THAT THIS DESTROYS THEIR CLAIM TO POWER AND AUTHORITY OVER US AND YOU MIGHT FEEL A BIT WASHED OUT, DISILLUSIONED, DEMORALIZED. IT WAS NOT MY INTENTION TO HURT YOU BUT I DID NOT THINK YOU WOULD WANT TO REMAIN IGNORANT AND MAYBE BECOME UNPLEASANTLY SURPRISED AS EVENTS UNFOLD TOWARD ARMAGEDDON.

BUT YOU MIGHT BE SAYING TO YOURSELF RIGHT NOW, "HOW DID I MISS ALL THIS, HOW DID I MANAGE TO BECOME SO MISLEAD? HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO STUPID? LOOK AT HOW I HAVE BEHAVED UNDER 'THEM'?" THESE AND MANY OTHER QUESTIONS COULD FOLLOW. WE HAVE ALL ASKED THEM AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER AFTER REALIZING THESE TRUTHS.

YOU MIGHT ALSO BE SAYING TO YOURSELF: "WHERE DOES THIS LEAVE ME, WHERE DO I STAND, WHAT BECOMES OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, DO THEY FIT IN ANYWHERE, DOES ANYTHING I BELIEVE HOLD UP ANY MORE." PLEASE STOP THOSE QUESTIONS AND PUT THEM ON HOLD. ABOVE ALL ELSE, DO NOT THROW IN THE TOWEL YET. WE DO NOT WANT TO GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES. LET US JUST TAKE THINGS ONE AT A TIME. DON'T TRY TO CARRY A MOUNTAIN ALL AT ONCE. LET'S JUST TAKE A SPOONFUL AT A TIME.

THOUGH THE SOCIETY MAY NOT HAVE ANY RIGHT TO UNQUESTIONED AUTHORITY ANYMORE, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THERE IS NO NEED AT ALL FOR THEIR EXISTENCE. THEY DO SERVE SOME USEFUL PURPOSES AND NECESSITIES THOUGH PERHAPS NOT FULLY REALIZING ALL OF THEM.

THE BIBLE DOES INDICATE THAT THERE WOULD BE SHEPHERDS AND OVERSEERS WHO WOULD HELP US AND WATCH OVER US (THEY HAD BETTER IF THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR THEM). AND WE WERE TO BE OBEDIENT AND HELPFUL TO THEM. BUT THESE WOULD NATURALLY HAVE LIMITS AND RESTRAINTS. AND IF THEY TOOK TO HARMING OR NEGLECTING THE FLOCK? ? ? WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN!

ALL THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED IS THE AMOUNT OF POWER AND CONTROL THAT THEY WIELD OVER US. IF THEY DO NOT ACCEPT THEIR DISCIPLINE (THEY CAN DISH IT OUT BUT CAN THEY TAKE IT?) THEN THAT WOULD, OF COURSE, MAKE THINGS A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT AND FORCE A DIFFERENT COURSE OF ACTION. DIFFICULT BUT NOT IMPOSSIBLE BY ANY MEANS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE HELP OF GOD WHO WILL NOT ABANDON US.

BUT WE CAN CROSS THAT BRIDGE IF AND WHEN IT COMES TIME TO. DID THE BIBLE PREDICT ANY OF THIS? DOES THE BIBLE SHOW US THE WAY TO GO FROM HERE? I ANSWER YES TO BOTH OF THOSE BUT NOT YET WITH EXPLANATION. FIRST THINGS ARE FIRST.

LET US TIE DOWN A FEW AS YET UNTIED LOOSE ENDS AND PUT THE FINAL NAILS IN THE COFFIN OF THE "FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE" CLASS.

THE MOST IMPORTANT CHANGE THAT RESULTS FROM ABANDONMENT OF THE "FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE" DOCTRINE IS THE UNWRITTEN BUT CLEARLY EXISTING IDEA THAT THE  FAITHFUL SLAVE COULD NOT BE QUESTIONED, THAT HIS AUTHORITY WAS SUPREME, THAT HE WAS FOR ALL INTENT PURPOSES, INFALLIBLE; AND THAT MOST OF ALL, HIS EVERY MOVE AND DECISION WAS MADE BY JEHOVAH AND HIS SON. THE IDEA THAT THIS ORGANIZATION'S EVERY STEP WAS GUIDED BY GOD, HIMSELF. THIS HAS TO GO.

FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CLAIMS; THIS DIVINE AUTHORITY AND PROVIDENCE. LISTEN TO THEIR DECREE.

"NOT SIMPLY A MAN, BUT THE VICAR OF GOD, SO THAT WHATSOEVER THE POPE DOES SEEMS TO PROCEED FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD."

ISN'T THAT WHAT WE SAY?  WHATEVER COMES FROM THE SOCIETY'S MOUTH SEEMS TO PROCEED FROM THE MOUTH OF GOD. HERE'S MORE FROM THE CATHOLIC DOCTRINE.

"THE POPE IS OF SO GREAT AUTHORITY AND POWER THAT HE CAN MODIFY, DECLARE OR INTERPRET THE DIVINE LAW."

IS NOT THIS, TOO, THE REALM OF THE SOCIETY?  ONLY THEY CAN INTERPRET SCRIPTURE AND ONCE THEY DO, NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO QUESTION OR TAMPER WITH IT. HOW ARE WE ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE CATHOLICS?

THE CATHOLICS CLAIM THAT THEIR TEACHINGS ARE BASED ON THE BIBLE AND FROM THE PROGRESSIVE EXPERIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE CHURCH. WHEN A CONFLICT ARISES BETWEEN THE TWO, THEY SEEM TO USUALLY FAVOR CHURCH TRADITION, MUCH LIKE THE PHARISEES DID IN JESUS' DAY. I SEE JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AS BEING NO DIFFERENT.

SO APPARENTLY IT IS NOT WRONG FOR CATHOLICS TO SAY THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES TO BE SAVED (SPARED OR WHATEVER) AND THAT THEY ARE THE ONLY CHURCH (FAITH) AND THAT THE POPE CAN'T BE QUESTIONED; IN FACT, HE'S INFALLIBLE. THE ONLY THING THEY NEED TO PROVE IS THAT THEY MEET THE SCRIPTURAL REQUIREMENTS.

BUT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES HAVE OFTEN CONDEMNED MANY OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH'S CLAIMS AS BEING WRONG. WRONG FOR WHAT REASON? IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION SINCE WE CLAIM ALL OF THE SAME THINGS AS THEY DO WITH THE EXCEPTION OF INFALLIBILITY, ALTHOUGH I TAKE EXCEPTION TO THAT, TOO.

I FIND IT MORE THAN COINCIDENTAL THAT THE APRIL 1, 1987 WATCHTOWER ON PAGE 17, PARA. 6, MENTIONS THAT "GOD'S HEAVENLY PRINCE" GIVES COUNSEL THAT "IS ALWAYS WISE, PERFECT, AND INFALLIBLE."
1 SENTENCE LATER IT SAYS:

""A GREAT CROWD" OF HIS "OTHER SHEEP" HAS BEEN TAKING IN HIS WONDERFUL COUNSEL AND IS GETTING THE FINEST INSTRUCTION AND GUIDANCE. AS AN AGENCY FOR THIS COUNSELING WORK, HE HAS IN THIS "CONCLUSION OF THE SYSTEM OF THINGS" RAISED UP THE PROMISED "FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE" CLASS AND SET IT UP OVER ALL HIS EARTHLY GOODS, OR ROYAL INTEREST. THE "GREAT CROWD" IS NOW RECEIVING SPIRITUAL COUNSEL THAT IS INDEED WONDERFUL AND TRUSTWORTHY [AND CAN I ASSUME, INFALLIBLE?] BECAUSE IT IS BASED UPON THE REVEALED WORD OF GOD." (SO THEY SAY, BUT JUST TRY AND MAKE THEM PROVE IT!).

IF THE "WONDERFUL COUNSELOR" IS INFALLIBLE AND HE IS GUIDING, DIRECTING, COUNSELING, AND INSTRUCTING THE ORGANIZATION THEN CAN WE NOT ASSUME THAT THE ORGANIZATION, TOO, IS ALSO, LIKE IT'S MASTER, INFALLIBLE?

THEY DON'T SAY IT BUT WE KNOW HOW ALL WILL TAKE IT, AND DON'T YOU THINK THEY PLANNED IT THAT WAY? AND IF THE ORGANIZATION CAN NOT BE QUESTIONED AND WE MUST WAIT FOR GOD TO CHANGE IT, WHICH IMPLIES HIS VERY TIGHT CONTROL OF IT AND FURTHER SUGGESTS INFALLIBILITY OF THE ORGANIZATION; THEN ANYONE WOULD ASSUME THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO BELIEVE SUCH A BODY IS INCAPABLE OF ERROR. BUT OUR RECORD AND HISTORY SAY OTHERWISE.

EVEN IF THE SOCIETY DID NOT MEAN TO IMPLY INFALLIBILITY, (ALTHOUGH CONCLUDING SUCH IS INEVITABLE BY OUR PRACTICES) IT CERTAINLY WAS RECKLESS AND IRRESPONSIBLE TO PUT THAT ALTOGETHER IN THE SAME PARAGRAPH, WORDED THE WAY IT IS AND NOT HAVE ANYONE JUMP TO WRONG CONCLUSIONS. I THINK IT IS TOO OBVIOUS AND HAD TO BE DELIBERATE ON THEIR PART.

AND, BY THE WAY, ON THAT LAST SENTENCE OF THE QUOTED PARAGRAPH IT MENTIONS THAT THEIR COUNSEL IS WONDERFUL AND TRUSTWORTHY "BECAUSE IT IS BASED UPON THE WORD OF GOD." IF THEY REALLY BELIEVE THAT THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR IF SOMEONE CHALLENGES WHETHER SOMETHING THEY SAID REALLY HAS THE BACKING OF THE SCRIPTURES OR NOT. AND THEY SHOULD BE WILLING TO ANSWER SUCH CHALLENGES, FROM THE BIBLE, WITHOUT RESORTING TO NAME CALLING, CHARACTER ASSASSINATION, AND OTHER SUCH BULLYING TACTICS WHICH WERE NOT THE TOOLS OF JESUS' TRADE.

LET'S STICK TO THE SCRIPTURES AND THE ISSUES BROUGHT UP AND NOT GET OFF ON SOME UNRELATED TANGENT, EFFECTIVELY DODGING THE ISSUES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T ANSWER THEM.

HERE IS SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT, BROTHERS. AT THE RECENT '89' DISTRICT ASSEMBLY, IN THE CONCLUSION OF THE SUNDAY MORNING DRAMA, THEY SAID AND I QUOTE: "WHY SHOULD WE EVEN QUESTION THE WISDOM OF GOD AND THOSE WHOM HE HAS APPOINTED?" NOTICE THE SUBTLE ASSOCIATION? SHOULD WE DARE QUESTION THE WISDOM OF MEN? ARE THEY NOT INFALLIBLE? WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK IT IS APPALLING AND CERTAINLY UNSCRIPTURAL.

DO WE STICK TO THE BIBLE? IS IT REALLY OUR FOUNDATION FOR OUR BELIEFS? THE WATCHTOWER OF JUNE 15, 1987, PG.20, PARA.16 COUNSELS: "IF AN ADJUSTMENT SEEMED DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND, THEY TRUSTED THAT JEHOVAH WAS 'TEACHING THEM TO BENEFIT THEMSELVES.'"

LET ME TRANSLATE THIS INCREDIBLE PIECE OF DOUBLE-SPEAK FOR YOU. "IF YOU DO NOT AND CAN NOT UNDERSTAND SOMETHING HANDED DOWN TO YOU, DO NOT BOTHER TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND IT BUT INSTEAD, TURN OFF YOUR THINKING POWER AND BLINDLY TRUST THAT GOD IS BEHIND IT ALL."   YOU KNOW WHAT I AM SAYING IS TRUE IF YOU DARE TO BE AT ALL HONEST AND FAIR. AND IT IS EXACTLY WHAT SOME SAY IN DEFENDING THE TRINITY. "DON'T TRY AND UNDERSTAND IT, JUST ACCEPT IT."  OVER MY DEAD BODY!!!

NO, MORONS LIKE US COULD NOT POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND THE DEEP THINGS THAT THE GOVERNING BODY HANDS DOWN. GOD LOVES TO DEAL WAY OVER OUR HEADS. AND THE SCRIPTURES ARE SO UNCLEAR AND VAGUE. WE PROBABLY SHOULDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO READ THE BIBLE BUT JUST LET THEM CARE FOR IT ALL. AND IT WOULD GIVE US YET ANOTHER THING IN COMMON WITH THE CATHOLICS. NO WONDER THAT 50 % OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE FORMER CATHOLICS. IT WAS LIKE THEY NEVER LEFT HOME.

I THINK YOU SHOULD READ THIS. IT IS THE WRITING OF CHARLES RUSSELL IN THE 1910 WATCH TOWER OF SEPT. 15, PG. 298-299. FIRST HE SAYS: "THEY (THE SIX VOLUMES OF 'STUDIES IN THE SCRIPTURES) ARE PRACTICALLY THE BIBLE ITSELF". THEN HE SAYS:

"FURTHERMORE, NOT ONLY DO WE FIND THAT PEOPLE CANNOT SEE THE DIVINE PLAN IN STUDYING THE BIBLE BY ITSELF, BUT WE SEE, ALSO, THAT IF ANYONE LAYS THE SCRIPTURE STUDIES ASIDE, EVEN AFTER HE HAS USED THEM, AFTER HE HAS BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THEM, AFTER HE HAS READ THEM FOR TEN YEARS - IF HE THEN LAYS THEM ASIDE AND IGNORES THEM AND GOES TO THE BIBLE ALONE, THOUGH HE HAS UNDERSTOOD HIS BIBLE FOR TEN YEARS, OUR EXPERIENCE SHOWS THAT WITHIN TWO YEARS HE GOES INTO DARKNESS. ON THE OTHER HAND, IF HE HAD MERELY READ THE SCRIPTURE STUDIES WITH THEIR REFERENCES, AND HAD NOT READ A PAGE OF THE BIBLE, AS SUCH, HE WOULD BE IN THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TWO YEARS, BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE THE LIGHT OF THE SCRIPTURES."

>> Russell was not living in the right time to be able to really know anything. He looks quite silly now, of course.<<

WHY DID THIS SEEM TO BE THE CASE AND WAS IT REALLY THE CASE. IT IS MY OPINION THAT MOST OF THOSE THAT LEAVE THE ORGANIZATION, DO SO BELIEVING IT TO STILL BE THE TRUTH OR THEY LEAVE WITH BAD MOTIVE AND POOR EXCUSES AND LITTLE SCRIPTURAL ARGUMENT TO BACK THEIR ACTIONS. IT DOES SEEM INCREDIBLE TO ME THAT IT SHOULD TAKE ALL OF THIS TIME FOR SOMEONE TO FINALLY SEE THROUGH ALL THE DEFECTIVE IDEAS THAT WE HAVE ACCUMULATED AND BRING THEM TO LIGHT. BUT WHAT IS, IS. WHAT IS. REALITY DOES NOT LIE.

BUT PART OF THE REASON WHY IT HAS TAKEN SO LONG IS THAT OUR ERRORS NEEDED TIME TO PROGRESS TO THE POINT WHERE THE ERROR WOULD BECOME BLATANTLY OBVIOUS TO US ALL. EARLY ON, THE MISTAKES HAD NOT TAKEN US FAR OFF COURSE. NOW WE ARE MILES AWAY FROM WHERE WE SHOULD BE AND IT HURTS.

BUT THERE IS NO ROOM FOR SAYING THAT READING THE BIBLE ALONE WILL LEAVE US IN DARKNESS. THIS IS OUTRIGHT APOSTASY. INDEED, WHEN SOMEONE KNOWS NOTHING OF THE SCRIPTURES, THEY WOULD BE GREATLY AIDED IN THEIR STUDY OF THE BIBLE BY HAVING SOMEONE EXPLAIN AND GUIDE THEM FOR A WHILE. OTHERWISE WE MIGHT TAKE A LONG TIME SINCE WE HAVE LITTLE TIME TO BEGIN WITH AND DO NOT HAVE A LOT OF WEALTH TO KEEP US AS RUSSELL DID.

WHAT IS ALSO LEFT OUT IS THAT RUSSELL HIMSELF WAS GUIDED AND INSTRUCTED BY OTHERS WHO CAME BEFORE HIM, NAMELY, MILLER AND BARBOUR. RUSSELL DID NOT DISCOVER THE BIBLE FROM SCRATCH. THIS IMPORTANT PIECE OF INFORMATION IS NOT PASSED ON TO US BY THE SOCIETY BUT IS PRESENTED IN A FALSE LIGHT.

BUT ONCE SOMEONE HAS A WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF THE BIBLE, THEN THEY ARE CERTAINLY CAPABLE OF STANDING ON THEIR OWN TWO FEET AND UNDERSTANDING THE SCRIPTURES FOR THEMSELVES. AND ISN'T THAT WHAT RUSSELL AND HIS FRIENDS DID. IF THEY DID IT THEN SO CAN WE. WE DO NOT NEED ANYONE AFTER WE HAVE A GOOD FOUNDATION, WHICH JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE ABLE TO GIVE US, I WOULDN'T ARGUE THAT. IT IS NICE TO HAVE HELP; IT IS NICE TO GET A GOOD START.

BUT THE SOCIETY WOULD SAY: "HE SUDDENLY THINKS THAT HE HAS GONE BEYOND HIS BROTHERS, BEYOND THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE." EXACTLY! I AM GLAD THEY UNDERSTAND ME SO WELL. THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE IN THE ORGANIZATION AT THE TIME THAT JUDGE RUTHERFORD CAME INTO IT, BUT HE WENT BEYOND THEM ALL. ISAAC NEWTON ONCE SAID:

"IF I HAVE SEEN FURTHER THAN OTHER MEN, (AND INDEED, HE HAD AT THAT TIME) IT IS ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE STOOD ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS."   WHAT HE WAS SAYING WAS THAT HE USED THE KNOWLEDGE AND WORK OF THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE HIM TO REACH THE HEIGHTS THAT HE DID. AND THE SOCIETY HAS HELPED MANY, TOO, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY HAVE A MONOPOLY ON PROGRESS AND ADVANCEMENT. YES, THEY TOO, CAN BE SURPASSED, ESPECIALLY IF THEY CEASE MOVING, SO TO SPEAK. AND I BELIEVE THEY HAVE.


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LET ME DECIPHER A FEW CHOICE BITS OF SOCIETY DOUBLE-SPEAK FOR YOU (WHEN IT COMES TO DOUBLE-SPEAK, I DON'T THINK THE GOVERNMENTS ARE EVEN IN THE SAME LEAGUE AS US. WE ARE THE BEST, DON'T YOU THINK?).

"WE SHOULD STICK CLOSELY TO THE CHANNEL OF COMMUNICATION THAT JEHOVAH IS USING." (AND OF COURSE WE KNOW WHO THAT IS, RIGHT CLASS?).

TRANSLATION: ""DON'T EVEN THINK OF USING YOUR OWN HEAD. JEHOVAH IS SAYING IT ALL THROUGH "THEM", AND "THEM" ONLY.""

"TRUST IN JEHOVAH WITH ALL YOUR HEART AND DO NOT LEAN UPON YOUR OWN UNDERSTANDING."

TRANSLATION: "TRUST IN JEHOVAH, AND, OF COURSE, HIS ORGANIZATION, AND WHAT EVER YOU DO, DO NOT TRY TO THINK." HEAVENS NO! IF YOU DID, YOU WOULD NOT BE NEEDING TO READ THIS. YOU WOULD HAVE SEEN IT FOR YOURSELF. AND YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THE BIBLE COUNSELS NOT TO TRUST NOBLES, LEADERS, EARTHLING MEN. THESE CAN NOT SAVE; THEY, TOO, ARE MORTAL AND FLAWED (ARE THEY EVER!!).

""NEVER REFUSE AN ASSIGNMENT FROM "JEHOVAH.""

TRANSLATION: "ALL APPOINTMENTS GIVEN BY THE MEN IN OUR ORGANIZATION COME FROM GOD. GOD MADE THEM DO IT. SO YOU SHOULDN'T SAY NO TO GOD. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING, DOESN'T HE? (DO YOU STILL DOUBT OUR "DOCTRINE OF INFALLIBILITY"). EITHER THIS IS THE CORRECT TRANSLATION OR ALL THE ELDERS AND OVERSEERS HAVE CHANGED THEIR NAMES TO "JEHOVAH."

IT ALSO CONTRADICTS THE COUNSEL OF JESUS TO CAREFULLY CALCULATE THE COST OF ATTEMPTING SOMETHING BEFORE GOING OFF AND DOING IT. AND JAMES COUNSELS THAT NOT MANY OF US SHOULD BE TEACHERS FOR TEACHERS WILL RECEIVE A HEAVIER JUDGEMENT. DOES IT SOUND LIKE THE BIBLE IS COUNSELING US NOT TO THINK ABOUT IT AND JUST DO IT. IT WOULD SEEM JUST THE OPPOSITE TO ME. WHAT DO YOU THINK?

"DO YOU HAVE AN INQUIRING MIND?"

TRANSLATION: "ARE YOU BEING A NAUGHTY BOY OR GIRL AND TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND THINK FOR YOURSELF?"

"ARE YOU REJECTING COUNSEL, DISCIPLINE, AND NOT PUTTING UP WITH HEALTHFUL TEACHING." (NOTICE THEIR FINE ART OF SCRIPTURE TWISTING AS WELL AS THEIR OTHER SKILLS OF THE TRADE)

TRANSLATION: ""HOW DARE YOU QUESTION US OR OUR AUTHORITY? AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT OUR COUNSEL IS NOT ALWAYS BASED ON THE SCRIPTURES? DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT WE ARE INCAPABLE OF ERROR? YOU APOSTATE, YOU!" (I GIVE THEM CREDIT. THEY ARE ABLE TO SAY SO MUCH IN SO FEW WORDS WHEN THEY DISGUISE THE LANGUAGE).

"DO YOU TRUST AUTHORITY?"

TRANSLATION: "YOU HAD BETTER TRUST OURS AND NOT QUESTION US OR ELSE!"

"BUILDING TRUST IN JEHOVAH"

TRANSLATION: "LEARNING TO TURN OFF YOUR MIND AND IGNORE WHAT YOU SEE AROUND YOU. PUT YOUR BLIND, UNQUESTIONING TRUST IN "JEHOVAH" AND THE ORGANIZATION THAT HE DIRECTS. (AFTER ALL, IT IS INFALLIBLE! DON'T TELL ME YOUR STILL NOT CONVINCED ABOUT THAT?).

"READ THE BIBLE WITH THE WATCHTOWER"

TRANSLATION: "DO NOT READ THE BIBLE WITHOUT IT. YOU MIGHT SEE THE BIBLE IN A DIFFERENT, MORE CORRECT LIGHT."

"BROTHERS, IF THE SOCIETY SAID THAT THIS GREEN BIBLE WAS BLACK, I WOULD SAY: 'THAT IS FUNNY. I THOUGHT IT WAS GREEN. BUT IF YOU SAY IT IS BLACK, THEN IT IS BLACK.'"

IT IS ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE THAT ANYONE COULD SAY THIS BUT I AM SURE YOU HAVE ALL HEARD IT AT A CIRCUIT ASSEMBLY OR A CIRCUIT OVERSEERS' VISIT.

TRANSLATION: "I HEAR AND I OBEY. I WILL NOT QUESTION. I WILL IGNORE REALITY AND TRUTH. I WILL BLIND MYSELF AND TURN OFF MY MIND. I AM YOUR SLAVE AND ZOMBIE. I WILL FOLLOW YOU WHEREVER YOU GO."

HOW ABOUT INTO A PIT? DO YOU REALLY FEEL COMFORTABLE IN A RELIGION THAT DEMANDS THIS TYPE OF MENTALITY. DON'T YOU THINK IT SOUNDS A BIT LIKE APOSTASY? LIKE THEY HAVE PLACED THEMSELVES IN THE SEAT OF GOD.

BROTHERS, PLEASE BELIEVE ME WHEN I TELL YOU I AM NOT TRYING TO BE NASTY OR UNFAIR BUT WHAT THESE MEN ARE ENCOURAGING, KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY, IS VERY SERIOUSLY WRONG. QUITE DANGEROUS. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO CONTINUE ON THAT PATH? PLEASE, THINK ABOUT WHAT I AM SAYING AND TRYING TO SHOW!


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GETTING BACK TO THE BIBLE A LITTLE MORE. IN A 1986 DRAMA AND SUBSEQUENT 1987 WATCHTOWER OF MAY 1, THE SOCIETY SUGGESTED, RATHER STRONGLY, THAT JOSEPH AND THE FAMINE OF EGYPT FORESHADOWED THE PRESENT DAY FAITHFUL SLAVE AND THE COINCIDING SPIRITUAL FAMINE OF THE WORLD.

WELL, PERHAPS THERE ARE SOME SIMILARITIES, BUT I COULD TAKE NEARLY ANY ACCOUNT IN THE BIBLE AND FIND A MODERN DAY SIMILARITY SINCE GOD MADE THE WHOLE BIBLE RELEVANT FOR OUR TIME PERIOD AND ALL TIME PERIODS.

BUT NOWHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SUGGEST THAT JOSEPH AND EGYPT SYMBOLIZED ANYTHING OTHER THAN THEMSELVES AND THE HISTORY OF ABRAHAM'S DESCENDANTS, THE OFFSPRING OF ISRAEL, WHICH WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR US TO KNOW, FOR THE MESSIANIC LINEAGE AND AS A MEANS FOR GOD TO DEMONSTRATE HIS POWER IN HIS EVENTUAL DRAMA OF DELIVERANCE FOR ISRAEL, A FORESHADOW OF A GREATER DELIVERANCE.

THE SOCIETY HAS GONE WELL BEYOND THE THINGS WRITTEN IN THIS INSTANCE AS WELL AS THAT OF THEIR CLAIM TO GREAT AUTHORITY AND TO THE INFALLIBLE GUIDANCE OF GOD. BUT YOU ASK: "HOW WOULD I DESCRIBE GOD'S DIRECTION IF THERE IS ANY AT ALL?"

YES, I BELIEVE THAT GOD HAS TRIED TO GUIDE AND INFLUENCE THEM BUT THEY HAVE NOT YIELDED TO IT. I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE FREE MORAL AGENTS AND THAT WE CAN CHOOSE TO OBEY OR REBEL. WE ALWAYS HAVE THAT OPTION. IT IS PART OF THE WHOLE IDEA OF FREE MORAL AGENCY. WE MAY YIELD TO GOD'S DIRECTION AND SOMETIMES DISCIPLINE OR WE MAY IGNORE IT.

ALL THROUGH BIBLE HISTORY, GREAT MEN, KINGS, PRIESTS, AND OTHERS HAVE HAD TO BE DISCIPLINED AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER. WHY SHOULD JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES BE AN EXCEPTION IN THIS DAY AND AGE. GOD CAN STILL PULL OFF HIS PURPOSE EVEN IF EVERY ONE OF US REBEL AGAINST HIM.

THE QUESTION THAT NEEDS TO BE ANSWERED IS: DOES THE SOCIETY NEED TO BE COUNSELED FROM THE SCRIPTURES; HAVE THEY DEVIATED FROM THEM IN ANY WAY?

AND: WILL THEY ACCEPT THE DISCIPLINE AND COUNSEL THAT IS GIVEN TO THEM OR WILL THEY BECOME LIKE SOME OF THE KINGS OF ISRAEL AND JUDAH WHO REFUSED SUCH COUNSEL (USUALLY THE COUNSEL CAME FROM A PROPHET WHO CAME FROM A MUCH LOWER STATION AND STATUS OF LIFE THAN THE KINGS THAT THEY COUNSELED)?

THINK ABOUT THIS. IF JESUS WAS GOING TO MAKE EVERY MOVE FOR THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE, THEN HE COULD NOT POSSIBLY HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, COULD HE? IS THERE INJUSTICE WITH GOD, OR HIS SON? WOULD THEY BLAME THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE FOR SOMETHING THAT THEY MADE THIS SLAVE DO? I SHOULD THINK NOT!!

NO, BUT JESUS LEFT THEM IN CHARGE TO MAKE WHAT EVER DECISIONS THEY FELT WERE RIGHT AND THEIR PERFORMANCE WOULD BE JUDGED BY JESUS UPON HIS RETURN. YOU SEE, GOD CREATED US WITH BRAINS AND WANTS US TO USE THEM. HE WANTS US TO LEARN TO WALK ON OUR OWN TWO FEET AND BECOME FREE MORAL AGENTS THAT REFLECT THE GLORY OF GOD. HE DID NOT WANT ROBOTS OR ZOMBIES. OTHERWISE THAT IS WHAT HE WOULD HAVE MADE AND HE COULD HAVE AVOIDED THIS 6,000 YEARS OF MISERY.

ELIJAH AND ELISHA ARE GOOD EXAMPLES. GOD GAVE THEM HIS POWER AND ESSENTIALLY SAID: "MY POWER IS YOURS TO DO WHAT YOU SEE FIT." GOD LOVED THESE MEN AND TRUSTED THEM SO MUCH THAT HE FELT HE COULD GIVE THEM FREE USE OF HIS POWER AND THAT THEY WOULD NOT ABUSE IT. HE, THROUGH HIS SON, HAS DONE A SIMILAR THING IN OUR DAY. HE LEFT HIS SLAVES/SHEPHERDS IN CHARGE TO DO WHAT THEY SEE FIT AND WHEN HE RETURNS HE WILL REWARD THOSE WHO DID GOOD AND PUNISH THOSE WHO ABUSE THE UNDESERVED KINDNESS AND TRUST OF GOD.

THIS IS HOW I SEE IT TODAY. THIS GOES FOR THE GOVERNING BODY, THIS ALSO GOES FOR THE ELDERS OF WHOM THE SOCIETY SAYS ARE ALSO APPOINTED BY GOD BASED ON ACTS 20:28. BUT THE SCRIPTURE ACTUALLY SAYS THAT THE "HOLY SPIRIT" APPOINTED THEM. INDEED IT DID!

THE APOSTLES HAD BEEN GIVEN MANY "GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT" (HOLY SPIRIT) AMONG WHICH WAS THE LAYING ON OF THE HANDS. AND PAUL WAS THE ONE TO LAY HIS HANDS UPON THOSE MEN IN EPHESUS THAT HE WAS WRITING TO. THEREFORE HE COULD PROPERLY SAY THAT THEY HAD BEEN APPOINTED BY HOLY SPIRIT.

WE CAN NOT SAY THE SAME TODAY UNLESS WE WOULD LIKE TO NOW CHANGE OUR VIEW ON THE EXISTENCE OF THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT IN OUR DAY. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT UNLESS YOU ARE DESIRING TO BECOME "BORN AGAINS."

BUT DOESN'T THE BIBLE TALK ABOUT APPOINTED MEN AND HOW WE SHOULD BE OBEDIENT TO THEM AND CO-+OPERATIVE. YES, BACK THEN THEY WERE APPOINTED BY THE SPIRIT, TODAY BY MEN ACTING IN JESUS' BEHALF. WE WOULD STILL HAVE A NEED FOR THEM AND THEY WOULD BE ACCOUNTABLE TO JESUS, JUST THE SAME. AND WE SHOULD BE OBEDIENT TO THEM WHERE THE SCRIPTURES ARE NOT VIOLATED. BUT IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY CAN NOT BE QUESTIONED AND SHOULD NOT BE CHECKED. AND IT WOULD ONLY MAKE SENSE TO CO-OPERATE, FOR THAT WOULD BE TO OUR BENEFIT AND EVERYONE'S.

I WOULD GO SO FAR AS TO SAY THAT NEITHER DO I BELIEVE IN THE IDEA OF RECEIVING AN ANOINTING OF THE SPIRIT TELLING US THAT WE ARE "GOING TO HEAVEN." THIS TOO, WAS ONE OF THE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT GIVEN TO THOSE IN THE BEGINNING, AS A CONFIRMATION OF GOD'S APPROVAL ON THIS NEW MOVEMENT THAT AROSE OUT OF THE JEWISH FAITH. THINK ABOUT THIS FOR A MINUTE.

SOMEBODY WALKS UP TO YOU AND INSISTS THAT HE HAS WITNESSED OR HEARD TELL OF A RESURRECTION OR A HEALING. ARE YOU GOING TO BELIEVE HIM? IT IS DOUBTFUL. BUT IF YOU WERE TOLD ENOUGH ABOUT THIS GOD AND THIS NEW FAITH SO THAT YOU WERE FAIRLY WELL CONVINCED AND DECIDED TO GET BAPTIZED, IMAGINE THE STRENGTH OF YOUR CONVICTION WHEN SUDDENLY UPON BAPTISM, YOU HAVE ALL THESE MAGICAL, WONDERFUL THINGS HAPPEN TO YOU. ARE YOU CONVINCED BEYOND THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT NOW? YOU BET!! AND HOW!!

THIS WAS A GIFT OF PROOF FROM GOD. WHY WAS HE DOING IT? BECAUSE THERE HAD NOT BEEN NEARLY ENOUGH FULFILLMENT OF PROPHECY OR MANY OTHER THINGS SO THAT THIS NEW MOVEMENT NEEDED A BOOST, A SHOT IN THE ARM, TO GET THEM ON THEIR FEET AND GOING.

DID IT WORK? DID IT CONVINCE PEOPLE? WELL, LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. CHRISTIANITY WENT FROM BEING EXTREMELY HATED AND PERSECUTED TO BECOMING SUCH A DOMINANT RELIGIOUS FORCE THAT BY THE THIRD CENTURY THE ROMAN EMPEROR CONSTANTINE MADE IT THE OFFICIAL RELIGION OF THE EMPIRE IN ORDER TO UNITE THE SLOWLY DECAYING EMPIRE. NOT BAD, HUH!

TRUE, CHRISTIANITY HAD, BY THAT TIME, BECOME WELL CORRUPTED, BUT IT IS NONETHELESS, QUITE A TESTIMONY TO ITS ABILITY TO OVER COME INCREDIBLE ODDS AND WIN THE HEARTS OF MOST OF THE POPULATION IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER. IT CERTAINLY MADE ITSELF FELT AND KNOWN BY THE WORLD.

WORLD HISTORY HAS CONTINUED TO REVOLVE AROUND THIS RELIGIOUS MOVEMENT AND HAS CARRIED DOWN TO OUR VERY DAY. SO SOMETHING VERY OUTSTANDING HAD TO TAKE PLACE BACK IN THOSE EARLY, FORMATIVE DAYS OF ITS BEGINNING IN ORDER TO HAVE SUCH A PROFOUND, LONG-LASTING INFLUENCE.

THESE GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT, INCLUDING THIS MAGICAL STUFF THAT HAPPENED AT BAPTISM, ALL HELPED ACHIEVE THIS POWERFUL INFLUENCE. THEREFORE, I BELIEVE THAT ONE CAN NOT KNOW WHEN ONE IS DESTINED FOR HEAVEN. YES, I BELIEVE THAT THOSE WHO FEEL THEY HAVE RECEIVED AN ANOINTING ARE REALLY JUST EXPERIENCING A RELIGIOUS HALLUCINATION.

WE DO NOT NEED ANY HOCUS POCUS OR VOODOO RELIGIOUS MAGIC. WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER THINGS TO GIVE US FAITH TODAY. WE HAVE ALL OF HISTORY. EVERY TIME AN ARCHAEOLOGICAL DISCOVERY IS MADE, WHETHER REALIZED OR NOT, ONLY BACKS AND REINFORCES THE BIBLE. IF ONE CAREFULLY EXAMINES ANTHROPOLOGICAL FINDINGS, THEY WILL SEE HOW THESE TOO, GIVE MORE CREDIT TO THE FLOOD AND CREATION RATHER THAN AN ICE AGE OR EVOLUTION (I AM NOT DENYING THE EXISTENCE OF LARGE GLACIAL FORMATIONS AND MOVEMENTS BUT DISAGREE WITH THE SUPPOSED SOURCE OF THEM).

ADDED TO SCIENCE IS OUR PRESENT STATE OF AFFAIRS HERE ON EARTH. THEY ARE EXACTLY AS GOD'S SON SAID THEY WOULD BECOME. WE HAVE SO MUCH THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER OURSELVES QUITE SPOILED AND CERTAINLY NOT IN NEED OF MAGIC TRICKS TO CONFIRM THE REALITY OF GOD AND THE PROMISED RESURRECTION.

AND WHILE WE ARE AT IT, LET ME MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR ABOUT THIS "ANOINTED, GOING TO HEAVEN" STUFF. JESUS MADE IT QUITE CLEAR (MATT.+11:+11) THAT JOHN THE BAPTIST WAS ONE OF THE GREATEST MEN EVER BORN. JESUS ALSO MADE IT CLEAR THAT DESPITE THIS, JOHN WOULD NOT BE GOING TO HEAVEN.

WHETHER YOU ARE GOING TO HEAVEN OR NOT DEPENDS ONLY UPON TIMING. IF YOU WERE BAPTIZED DURING THE TIME WHEN THE OFFER WAS MADE OPEN AND AVAILABLE THEN YOU WILL GO TO HEAVEN.

AND, YES, 1 THESS.4:17 DOES INDICATE THAT THERE WILL BE SOME ALIVE AT THE TIME OF JESUS COMING AND THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT, WHO WOULD BE CAUGHT UP IN TO A HEAVENLY EXISTENCE WITH JESUS AND HIS FATHER.

BUT REVELATION 7:11-17 ALSO SHOWS MANY ALIVE AT THE END, WHO WOULD REMAIN ON EARTH AND SURVIVE ARMAGEDDON'S CLEANSING. ISAIAH 26:22,21 AND PSALM 91:7-9 SHOW THIS AS HAPPENING. SO WE CAN SAFELY CONCLUDE FROM THIS THAT WHO EVER IS OR WAS DESTINED FOR HEAVEN HAS LONG SINCE BEEN PICKED AND ANYONE COMING ALONG IN THE LAST 10 OR 20 YEARS CAN PROBABLY FORGET ABOUT ANY CHANCE OF MAKING IT "UPSTAIRS."

BUT WHOEVER IS DESTINED FOR HEAVEN, WELL, WE JUST CAN NOT BE CERTAIN WHEN THAT NUMBER WAS FILLED. AND WHAT EVER PLACE WE ARE DESTINED FOR DOES NOT MATTER. IF WE ARE GOING TO MAKE IT TO EITHER WE MUST FIRST PROVE FAITHFUL TO REACH WHATEVER DESTINY AWAITS US.

IF ONE OF THOSE DESTINED FOR HEAVEN SHOULD NOT REMAIN FAITHFUL TO HIS CALLING THEN IT WOULD SEEM LOGICAL TO ME THAT GOD WOULD CHOOSE ANOTHER FROM NEAR THE SAME TIME PERIOD AS WHEN THE NUMBER WAS FILLED. THAT IS THE WAY THAT WOULD SEEM LOGICAL TO ME SINCE BEING ESPECIALLY GOOD DOES NOT HAVE A BEARING ON THE MATTER AS IS CLEARLY SHOWN IN THE EXAMPLE OF JOHN THE BAPTIST. I COULD BE WRONG, WHATEVER GOD DECIDES IS WHAT HE DECIDES BUT THIS WOULD SEEM THE MOST LIKELY POSSIBILITY.

AND I CERTAINLY DO NOT THINK HE WOULD CHOOSE SOMEONE WHO WOULD NOT WANT TO GO (I HAVE HEARD MANY EXPRESS NOT WANTING THE HEAVENLY CALLING, MYSELF INCLUDED).

SOME HAVE EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO GO, PERHAPS REASONING THAT THEY ARE SPECIAL. I HOPE I HAVE SHOWN THE ERROR OF THAT. I JUST THOUGHT THAT I SHOULD CLEAR SOME OF THESE THINGS UP SINCE I BROUGHT UP THE TOPIC OF BEING ANOINTED WITH THE SPIRIT.

WELL, NOW THAT ELDERS ARE NOT APPOINTED BY GOD, AND THERE IS NO ANOINTING, NOR UNQUESTIONABLE AUTHORITY; NOW WHAT?

BEFORE GOING ANY FURTHER, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I HAVE TAKEN FOR GRANTED THAT YOU HAVE READ OUR BOOKLET "A SECOND LOOK AT THE LAST DAYS". IF YOU HAVE READ THESE THEN YOU MAY FIND IT EASIER TO ACCEPT THE LAST FEW IDEAS THAT I HAVE PRESENTED. IF YOU HAVEN'T THAN ALL OF WHAT I HAVE SAID MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ENOUGH TO CONVINCE YOU. I CAN CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT. DO NOT HESITATE TO ORDER IT. IT IS FREE FOR THE ASKING.


PLAN OF ATTACK
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WHY DO I BRING ALL THIS UP? WHAT IS MY INTENTION? WHERE DO I HOPE THIS ALL LEADS TO? WHAT DO WE DO NOW?

I COULD WISH THAT WE COULD CONFRONT THE SOCIETY WITH ALL THIS, ALL OF US, EVERYONE; AND THAT THEY WOULD CONFESS THEIR SHORTCOMINGS AND REPENT. BUT I AM A LITTLE MORE REALISTIC THAN THAT. I EXPECT FEW TO LISTEN, AND NOTHING TO CHANGE ALTHOUGH I DO EXPECT A LOT OF FIRE WORKS FROM ELDERS AND HIGHER AUTHORITIES SINCE IT THREATENS THEIR BELIEFS AND EGOS AS WELL.

BUT I FELT THE NEED TO SAY SOMETHING AND RELIEVE THE BLOODGUILT I WOULD BEAR AND TRY TO SPARE A FEW FROM SUFFERING THE UNNECESSARY HARM THAT SO MANY ARE EXPERIENCING BY LISTENING, UNQUESTIONINGLY, TO THE SOCIETY'S ERRONEOUS, IF NOT OFTEN TIMES, VERY HARMFUL COUNSEL.

THIS IS WHAT MUST NEXT BE ADDRESSED. HOW IS IT THAT THE SOCIETY IS HURTING US? WHAT COUNSEL IS IT THAT IS SO BAD OR HARMFUL? GOOD QUESTIONS AND I HAD BETTER HAVE SOME GOOD ANSWERS, RIGHT? OBVIOUSLY I MUST HAVE SOMETHING OR I WOULD NOT BRING IT UP.

THESE ARE THINGS THAT MUST BE ADDRESSED IN DETAIL, IN OTHER BOOKLETS, BUT I WILL ADDRESS THE MAIN TOPICS FOR YOU AND TELL YOU WHAT YOU CAN ORDER FOR MORE DETAILED INFORMATION TO CONSIDER. IT COULD PUT YOU ON TO A BETTER COURSE OF LIFE.

LET ME ASK YOU, HAVE YOU EVER HAD PROBLEMS BRINGING UP CHILDREN AS A WITNESS? HAVE YOUR CHILDREN HAD PROBLEMS? MANY HAVE. HAVE WE DONE EVERYTHING WE COULD? IS THERE SOMETHING WE COULD HAVE OR SHOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY? HAVE SOME OF OUR BELIEFS BEEN SOMEWHAT ERRANT AND CAUSED SOME OF THE PROBLEM? HAVE YOU EVER HAD SOME DOUBTS ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE INSISTED YOUR CHILDREN COMPLY WITH?

I PROPOSE TO YOU THAT MANY OF OUR "POLICIES" AND IDEAS ARE QUITE RIDICULOUS AND HAVE CAUSED A LOT OF HARM TO OUR CHILDREN WHO HAVE HAD TROUBLE (LOTS OF IT) IN BEARING UP TO ALL OF IT.

"WE FAVOR ADDING NO FURTHER BURDEN TO YOU, EXCEPT THESE NECESSARY THINGS." ACTS 15:28. THIS COULD NOT BE SAID BY THE SOCIETY. THEY HAVE GONE FAR BEYOND THE THINGS WRITTEN IN ESTABLISHING THE GUIDELINES AND RESTRICTIONS THAT THEY HAVE LAID UPON US. WE HAVE PAID A SOMETIMES TERRIBLE PRICE.

IT IS WITH THIS CHARGE AGAINST THEM THAT YOU ARE ENCOURAGED TO ORDER THE BOOKLET "PROBLEMS IN PARADISE". PART 1 "RAISING CHILDREN" COVERS SO MANY TOPICS INCLUDING: SHOULD MY CHILD GO DOOR TO DOOR? SHOULD MY YOUNG TEENAGER GET BAPTIZED? WHAT ABOUT SCHOOL SPORTS, EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, ENTERTAINMENT, HOLIDAYS, AND OTHER SUCH THINGS? HOW DO I REACH MY CHILD, HELP HIM, TEACH HIM? SHOULD I SEND THEM TO SCHOOL? SHOULD THEY BE TAUGHT THE SAME MATERIAL THAT I AM TAUGHT? IN THE SAME WAY? THE LIST IS ALMOST ENDLESS.

WHAT REALLY HURTS IS THAT THE SOCIETY'S COUNSEL IS OFTEN VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE HEALTHY COURSE. DO YOU DOUBT? READ IT AND SEE WHAT YOU THINK. YOU MIGHT CHANGE YOUR MIND!

ANOTHER VERY BIG, SERIOUS PROBLEM HAS TO DO WITH DISFELLOWSHIPPING AND JUDICIAL MEETINGS. MORE WITNESSES ARE AFFECTED BY THIS THAN ANY OTHER FACTOR IN THE RELIGION. HAVE YOU EVER BEEN THE SUBJECT OF A JUDICIAL MEETING OR HAD A FRIEND OR RELATIVE WHO HAS? MANY HAVE WITH QUESTIONABLE RESULTS AT BEST. ALMOST ALL HAVE HAD A FRIEND, A RELATIVE, MAYBE A CHILD, WHO HAS BEEN THROWN OUT. MANY HAVE FELT UNEASY AFTER KNOWING SOMEONE HAS BEEN THROWN OUT (IMAGINE HOW THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT FEEL!!).

MANY HAVE WONDERED IF SOME OFFENSES SHOULD CARRY THE PENALTY OF DISFELLOWSHIPPING OR NOT. SOME MAY QUESTION THE JUSTICE OF OUR TYPICAL "GUILTY TILL PROVEN INNOCENT" ATTITUDE. AND THERE IS WHAT IS CALLED "APOSTASY." A TOPIC BY ITSELF. IT TOO, HAS LEFT UNEASINESS AND USUALLY UNEXPRESSED DOUBTS AS WELL. THIS TOPIC IS EXPLORED AND RECONSIDERED FROM THE SCRIPTURES IN DETAIL AND CAN BE FOUND IN THE BOOKLET "PROBLEMS IN PARADISE" UNDER PART 2 "DISFELLOWSHIPPING AND APOSTASY". THIS IS AN AREA WHERE MUCH SIN EXISTS WITH REGARDS TO THE SOCIETY'S (VERY QUESTIONABLE) ACTIONS AND BLOODGUILT.

THE LAST TOPIC COVERED IN THAT SAME BOOKLET IS PART 3 "CRITICISMS OF WATCHTOWER DOCTRINE" HAS TO DO WITH VARIOUS IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN IN ERROR AND HARMFUL TO A FEW OR MANY, AND IN SOME CASES, ALL. SHOWN IN THIS BOOKLET IS HOW OBVIOUSLY UNSCRIPTURAL SOME OF THESE IDEAS ARE. YOU SOMETIMES WONDER HOW MEN WHO KNOW AS MUCH OF THE BIBLE AS THESE MEN SEEM TO KNOW COULD MAKE SUCH STATEMENTS AND POLICIES. EVEN MORE INCREDIBLE IS HOW WE NEVER DARED TO CHALLENGE IT, IF WE EVEN RECOGNIZED IT.

NOW WHAT MUST BE ANSWERED IF YOU, AT THIS POINT, FEEL I HAVE PUT FORTH SOME SOLID ARGUMENTS, IS HOW IT COULD HAVE ALL HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE. WHY WERE WE ALL SO GULLIBLE? HOW COULD WE HAVE BEEN SO BLIND. AND WHAT COURSE DO WE TAKE NOW? WHAT ARE WE TO BELIEVE? HOW DO WE EXPLAIN THE SCRIPTURES WITH ALL THESE CHANGES? WHAT IS YOUR PLAN OF ATTACK, SO TO SPEAK?

I WILL ANSWER THAT IN THE NEXT PART OF THIS BOOKLET CALLED "RECONSTRUCTING THE PAST". IT IS CALLED THAT BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE ALL NEED TO DO. WE NEED TO RECONSTRUCT THE SCENE OF THE CRIME AND PUT ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER AND FIND OUT WHY THIS HAPPENED AND TAKE STEPS TO SEE THAT IS DOES NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. AFTER THAT WE MUST FORGE (RE-+CONSTRUCT) A NEW DIRECTION TO WALK IN.

THOSE WHO DO NOT LEARN FROM HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE ENDURED 6,000 YEARS OF SUFFERING. TO LEARN SOMETHING. SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO KNOW AS FREE MORAL AGENTS SO THAT WE CAN LIVE UNDER GOD'S RULE WITHOUT GETTING BACK INTO THE SAME MESS WE CAME FROM, REPEATING THE MISTAKES OF ADAM AND EVE.

FINALLY, TO ANSWER A QUESTION RAISED EARLIER, DID THE BIBLE FORESEE ALL THIS THAT IS HAPPENING BETWEEN US AND THE SOCIETY? YES, I BELIEVE THAT IT DID. FIRST, JESUS' PREACHING WAS JUST LOADED WITH WARNINGS TO THOSE WHO WOULD BE SHEPHERDS, TEACHERS, AND LEADERS OF THE PEOPLE. I BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT THE FAITHFUL AND DISCREET SLAVE STORY IS ALL ABOUT.

SECOND, IN LUKE 18:8 JESUS ASKS: "NEVERTHELESS, WHEN THE SON OF MAN ARRIVES, WILL HE REALLY FIND THE FAITH ON THE EARTH?" IT SEEMS LIKE HE HAS SOME DOUBT, WOULDN'T YOU SAY? VERSE 1 OF THAT 18TH CHAP. SAYS THAT HE TOLD THIS TO HIS DISCIPLES "WITH REGARD TO THE NEED FOR THEM ALWAYS TO PRAY AND NOT TO GIVE UP." PERHAPS HE FELT WE MIGHT BE TEMPTED TO WANT TO GIVE UP.

IF ANYTHING OF WHAT I HAVE SAID IS TRUE THEN WE COULD CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND WHY SOME MIGHT FEEL THAT WAY. BUT THE FACT REMAINS THAT JESUS APPEARS TO HAVE SOME DOUBT ABOUT WHAT HE IS GOING TO FIND WHEN HE RETURNS. SO IT SHOULD NOT SURPRISE US IF THAT IS THE CASE.

DO YOU, AS ONE OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, FEEL YOU ARE ONE OF GOD'S PEOPLE? IF YOU DO AND YOU SHOULD, THEN LOOK AT WHAT ZECHARIAH 14:1-3 SAYS IS WAITING FOR YOU AND ALL OF THE REST OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. I DARE YOU TO LOOK IT UP.

OLD ZECH SAYS THAT YOU, AS AN ORGANIZATION, WILL BE DISSOLVED, UNLESS YOU ARE NOT GOD'S PEOPLE, IN WHICH CASE YOUR IN TROUBLE ANYWAY. OF COURSE, THE SOCIETY SAYS THIS, LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE, IS FIGURATIVE AND HAPPENED IN 1914 (SEE "PARADISE RESTORED TO MANKIND", 21ST CHAP.). BUT THEY STILL SAY THAT IT DOES APPLY TO THE FINAL "DAY OF JEHOVAH" WHICH IS THE TITLE TOPIC TO LOOK UP IN THE "AID" BOOK, PG.430, LEFT COLUMN, LAST TWO PARAGRAPHS.

I THINK THAT THE GOVERNING BODY IS A LITTLE SCARED OF THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS PASSAGE, AND A LOT OF THE FLOCK WITH THEM. YEAH, THE APOSTLES DIDN'T LIKE WHAT JESUS SAID WOULD HAPPEN TO HIM AND THEM, EITHER. I DO HOPE WE LEARNED SOMETHING FROM THEM!

BROTHERS, OBSERVE HOW ISRAEL WAS ALWAYS STRAYING FROM GOD. THERE IS NOT ONE PLACE IN THE LINEAGE OF ANY KINGLY LINE WHERE THERE WERE THREE FAITHFUL KINGS IN A ROW. WE HAVE HAD FOUR KINGS (PRESIDENTS), SO TO SPEAK. COULD WE HAVE BEEN THAT LUCKY? AND EVEN WITH GOOD KINGS, GOD STILL FOUND IT NECESSARY TO COUNSEL AND DISCIPLINE THEM. SHOULD IT BE SO DIFFERENT IN OUR DAY?

SOME MAY SAY: "WHAT ABOUT MARK 10:29,30; "NO ONE HAS LEFT HOUSE OR BROTHERS OR SISTERS OR MOTHER OR FATHER OR CHILDREN OR FIELDS FOR MY SAKE AND FOR THE SAKE OF THE GOOD NEWS  30 WHO WILL NOT GET A HUNDREDFOLD NOW IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME".

GOOD QUESTION. NOW IT IS MY TURN. HAS THIS SCRIPTURE APPLIED TO ALL TIME PERIODS SINCE JESUS UNTIL NOW? COULD THIS SCRIPTURE HAVE APPLIED TO THOSE IN THE DARK AGES WHO WERE IN THE GRIPS OF A VERY FALSE CORRUPT FORM OF CHRISTIANITY? IT WOULDN'T SEEM SO TO ME. AND JESUS DOES NOT SAY IT APPLIES TO THE LAST DAYS.

COULD THE KEY EXIST IN THE LINE, "IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME"? WAS JESUS APPLYING THIS ONLY TO THOSE AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME? IT IS POSSIBLE. OR IT COULD APPLY TO OUR GENERAL TIME PERIOD BUT NOT TO EVERY SINGLE MOMENT WITHIN THAT PERIOD. THAT IS TO SAY, IT HAS APPLIED, NOW IT IS THREATENED, BUT IN A SHORT WHILE, WE WILL BE TOGETHER IN A NEW DIRECTION, AND THINGS WILL BE O.K. AGAIN (I DO TEND TO DOUBT THIS, THOUGH).

NEVERTHELESS, IT SEEMS CLEAR THAT THERE ARE MANY TIMES IN HISTORY WHEN THIS COULD NOT HAVE APPLIED, AND MANY ISOLATED INDIVIDUAL EFFORTS THAT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN SATISFIED BY AN APPLICATION OF THIS SCRIPTURE, SO IT NEED NOT APPLY TO US, EITHER.

THAT IS WHY JESUS SAID IN MATT.18:20: "FOR WHERE THERE ARE TWO OR THREE GATHERED TOGETHER IN MY NAME, THERE I AM IN THEIR MIDST.";
AND WHY IT IS RECORDED IN MARK 9:38-40:

""TEACHER, WE SAW A CERTAIN MAN EXPELLING DEMONS BY THE USE OF YOUR NAME AND WE TRIED TO PREVENT HIM, BECAUSE HE WAS NOT ACCOMPANYING US."  39 BUT JESUS SAID: "DO NOT TRY TO PREVENT HIM, FOR THERE IS NO ONE THAT WILL DO A POWERFUL WORK ON THE BASIS OF MY NAME THAT WILL QUICKLY BE ABLE TO REVILE ME"."

DOES THAT SOUND TO YOU LIKE THE SOCIETY HAS EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS TO JESUS' OR JEHOVAH'S NAME AND WORK? I DON'T THINK SO!!

WITH THAT I ASSUME YOU ARE GOING TO CONTINUE ON WITH THIS READING AND FIND OUT WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY, RIGHT? I HOPE SO. I AM GRATEFUL TO HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE TO BE ABLE TO HELP YOU IF I HAVE AND I HOPE TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO DO SO AS LONG AS TIME AND CIRCUMSTANCE ALLOW.

BEST WISHES IN YOUR STRUGGLE FOR TRUTH AND ACCURACY. I KNOW YOUR ROAD AHEAD IS A VERY DIFFICULT ONE WHICH I HOPE TO MAKE EASIER FOR YOU AS MUCH AS I AM ABLE. DON'T GET DISCOURAGED. WRITE ANYTIME. IT HAS BEEN HARD FOR US ALL BUT VERY NECESSARY. WE HAVE A GOOD REWARD WAITING AT THE END. LET US ENCOURAGE ONE ANOTHER IN ANY WAY WE CAN AS LONG AS WE CAN AND TRY TO ENDURE OUR TRIALS. AFTER ALL, JESUS DID PROMISE THAT JUSTICE (AND REWARD) WOULD BE DONE FOR ALL. LUKE 18:1-8. TAKE CARE.



My Last Thoughts
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It is possible that these articles are not that good . . . or that JWs are a waste of time. Time and human nature have taught me that it is the latter that is the case. Most people do not think for themselves. Most do not even grasp much of their own official doctrine. I will say a couple more things about people and nature in general.

First, some say about JWs or even other denominations or sects, that "they" are nice people. They are just misled. I am going to disagree with that. Nice people do not ignore important vital issues. Nice people do not turn off their brains or say they do not care or act as if they do not care. They do not judge without giving a fair hearing and trial. Nice people are diligent people who are not afraid of effort. Nice people care. JWs are not nice people. They go along with those in leadership who commit great evils in the name of God. They are wicked people, if you want to get down to the truth. Good or nice people eventually leave that religion and other such religions.

Put another way, Jesus said that if a blind man leads a blind man, then both will fall into a pit. Translation: If you trust and allow someone else to do your thinking, you are screwed. God will judge both of you by the dummy you follow. So if you do not want to die the 2nd death, you had best start thinking for yourself. Your life depends upon it. I can't say it any more clear than that! I and many like me; we write to reach those few good souls still remaining in temporary darkness or blindness and eventually come out. Their numbers are quite high. But most come out, only to reject God. Few come out to find a more accurate truth leading to God and life.

I personally have found more fertile ground and results speaking to non-JWs than JWs. This could be said for any denomination since most do not care that much about truth and just want a place to belong and have some sense of community. But that comes at a high price since fitting in usually means keeping your mouth shut and your brain off. So below are the 5 doctrines of JWs that I blew to hell. God will take care of the rest of it. Just remember that a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

God gave us very capable minds, which when we look at animals, we should be awed and amazed at what God has given us. To let it go to waste dishonors the grand a loving Creator who gave it  to us in the 1st place. What an insult that truly is to Him! You have a precious gift. Use it as God intended for you to do. Then you can say that you love God and are a nice person.


The 2014 Examination of the Anti-Christ Doctrine
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It has dawned on me why JWs have never believed in a very particular anti-christ of the last days. So I thought I should write about it, perhaps briefly, if possible. Not much I write is ever brief.

First, JWs know very little about Charles Russell, but Russell's beliefs and teachings were far different from JWs of the 1940s or the 1980s and onward. Russell said there were two paths to salvation. One for the Jews and another for Christians. The truth is that there is only one path for both, one flock, one shepherd. Jesus in the only name under heaven by which anyone can get saved.

Russell was the absolute quintessential apostate who was promoting the Antichrist doctrine, which was going to require the re-established nation of literal Israel, as well as the priesthood and temple, just as Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-11, which scriptures JWs know quite well. Now given that Paul was so very plain and clear in his description, JWs should have been waiting for this one. So how did they miss it?

Answer: JWs did not see that The antichrist was the very same character as false prophets and false messiahs, which in Greek would be false Christs or pseudo-Christs. But Revelation refers to one false prophet in particular. Jesus warned that if someone appeared on earth claiming to be Christ, do not believe him, do not go to him for Jesus' return was not going to be a physical bodily return for Jesus forever offered his sacrificed his earthly body on Pentecost, 33 AD. As repayment for his loss, we have been accepted as his replacement seed to carry on his name. We who remain on earth after Armageddon are his sons and seed just as Adam had a seed in Adam's name.

JW leaders decided that every different name signified a different character. This is the huge error they have made. The first 3 chapters of Revelation describe many different aspects of Jesus and a different name for each of those descriptions, but all of which apply to Jesus, the son of God. In this way, we are to understand that all prophetic characters are most likely to have several different name and a number of characteristics that apply to them. Other prophets also give Jesus many different names and descriptions such as in Isaiah 9:

Isaiah 9:
6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder:
   and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

7 Of the increase of his government and of peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom,
   to establish it, and to uphold it with justice and with righteousness from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of Jehovah of hosts will perform this.

Isaiah and other prophets are loaded with the many things the messiah was going to say and do, but not all are in the same place or with the same name or label.

So JWs miss the fact that Antichrist, false prophet, false messiah or christ, man of sin, called man of lawlessness in the JW bible, son of perdition /destruction; this one must appear before the real Christ will return, in spirit, not the flesh.

What also eludes JWs is that Satan foresaw the many prophecies regarding the Christ and knew many of these would be seen as being fulfilled and in order to try to mislead the world away from the truth, Satan elected to create and introduce a false fake Christ who would appear to fulfill much of prophecy, but not in the way God intended. Those who know the Bible well and carefully, will not get fooled but those who know just a little do not care to know more, will get fooled by the devil.

God has no use for those who do not want to put forth the effort and care to know God and His words carefully and precisely.

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Yet another problem that JWs are unaware of is that 2nd/3rd writers in particular, Irenaeus and Hippolytus, wrote much about the antichrist as did some later writers in small amounts. As well, JWs are unaware that the tribe of Dan is significant, again, according to the 2 just mentioned as well as maybe several others. The antichrist is said to be due to come thru the tribe of Dan.

But since Russell was directly financed by the Rothschild banking empire, Russell was to be the leading and preeminent one introducing the antichrist, or one of his successors. Russell was the ultimate apostate and heretic. Though the JW Org has been passed on to others and changed much in doctrine, Russell being what he was could never qualify as the faithful and discreet slave. As well, the JW Org much changed, still belonged to important leaders and controllers who ultimately have connections going back to the Rothschilds, according to Fritz Springmeier's works.

So it is certainly no surprise that JW leadership ignores the antichrist doctrine, because they are the successors of an organization and movement that was intended, for quite some time, to be the one to introduce the antichrist. So they avoid that subject and say there is no particular such one to appear just before the real Christ makes his presence felt and known.

X-JWs need to realize just how bad this organization is and has always been. It is a lurking place of demons and a gathering place for evil. The more you get to know the real and thorough history of the JWs, the more you will realize that it is far more corrupt than you ever could have imagined and a far greater liar than even most apostates (so called) are not aware of.

The Org is far more controlled by politics that you could ever believe. They cooperate in secret with Mormons and others. They are very close to Freemasons, who control them, the Org. But the general membership of the JWs has no idea any of this is going on while they serve a group of doctrines that say one thing, the governing body does quite the opposite of some of those doctrines and never lets the followers know. Yes, rank and file JWs are totally lied to by their own leadership.

So if you new x-JWs, as well as the old ones, want a place to start looking for new and better answers, you might start with the antichrist doctrine. And lucky for you, I got it right here on this site. Revelation Part 7 is all about the Antichrist with full Bible proofs as well as 2nd/3rd century writers, too. Once you study this doctrine, you will never look back. It will be a new horizon to pursue. I wish you the best!




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