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Beware of Meditation & Yoga!

The Premise
What About Yoga?
Transcendental Meditation
A Cult & Yoga Similarities
Kundalini Awakening
Singer on Meditation
Singer: Meditation Casualties
Meditation may not Always be Good for You
Is Meditation ever Beneficial?
Links Condemning Hindu Practices

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The Premise
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A subject worthy and deserving of very serious attention. It presents a very serious danger and yet this crap is all around us. So I am here to show you just how bad it is. And here in February of 2016, I have come across far more to add to this subject. Meditation seems harmless and has that reputation. But Satan is behind it and made it popular and cool. But demon possession is hardly cool. Its a nightmare. So I would not turn a blind eye to this were I you.

The approximate 1st half of this article was first part of another article, "Satan's Lies 101." I removed this 1st half from there and put it here and added a lot to it from a book on this subject of Meditation. Satan's Lies 101 was created June 30, 015.

What About Yoga?
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Yoga        From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is about the umbrella term yoga which includes religion, philosophy, and practices. For one of the six Hindu philosophy schools, see Yoga (philosophy). For the popular yoga that explains and emphasizes the physical practices or disciplines, see Hatha Yoga. For other uses, see Yoga (disambiguation).

Yoga (/ˈjɡə/; Sanskrit: योग, Listen) is a physical, mental, and spiritual practice or discipline which originated in India. There is a broad variety of schools, practices and goals[1] in Hinduism, Buddhism (including Vajrayana and Tibetan Buddhism[2][3][4]) and Jainism.[5][6][7][6] The best-known are Hatha yoga and Raja yoga.

The origins of Yoga have been speculated to date back to pre-Vedic Indian traditions, but most likely developed around the sixth and fifth centuries BCE, in ancient India's ascetic circles, which are also credited with the early sramana movements.[8][note 1] The chronology of earliest texts describing yoga-practices is unclear, varyingly credited to Hindu Upanishads[9] and Buddhist Pāli Canon,[10] probably of third century BCE or later. The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali date from the first half of the 1st millennium CE,[11][12] but only gained prominence in the 20th century.[13] Hatha yoga texts emerged around 11th century CE, and in its origins was related to Tantrism.[14][15]

Yoga gurus from India later introduced yoga to the west,[16] following the success of Swami Vivekananda in the late 19th and early 20th century.[16] In the 1980s, yoga became popular as a system of physical exercise across the Western world.[15] Yoga in Indian traditions, however, is more than physical exercise, it has a meditative and spiritual core.[17] One of the six major orthodox schools of Hinduism is also called Yoga, which has its own epistemology and metaphysics, and is closely related to Hindu Samkhya philosophy.[18]

Many studies have tried to determine the effectiveness of yoga as a complementary intervention for cancer, schizophrenia, asthma, and heart disease. The results of these studies[19][20] have been mixed and inconclusive, with cancer studies suggesting none to unclear effectiveness, and others suggesting yoga may reduce risk factors and aid in a patient's psychological healing process.


In Vedic Sanskrit, the more commonly used, literal meaning of the Sanskrit word yoga which is "to add", "to join", "to unite", or "to attach" from the root yuj, already had a much more figurative sense, where the yoking or harnessing of oxen or horses takes on broader meanings such as "employment, use, application, performance" (compare the figurative uses of "to harness" as in "to put something to some use").

There are very many compound words containing yog in Sanskrit. Yoga can take on meanings such as "connection", "contact", "union", "method", "application", "addition" and "performance". In simpler words, Yoga also means "combined". For example, guṇ-yoga means "contact with a cord"; chakr-yoga has a medical sense of "applying a splint or similar instrument by means of pulleys (in case of dislocation of the thigh)"; chandr-yoga has the astronomical sense of "conjunction of the moon with a constellation"; puṃ-yoga is a grammatical term expressing "connection or relation with a man", etc. Thus, bhakti-yoga means "devoted attachment" in the monotheistic Bhakti movement.

>>So I ask, what is it that is added, joined, attached, connected, contacted (with a cord?)?<<

According to Pāṇini, a 6th-century BCE Sanskrit grammarian, the term yoga can be derived from either of two roots, yujir yoga (to yoke) or yuj samādhau (to concentrate).[23] In the context of the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, the root yuj samādhau (to concentrate) is considered by traditional commentators as the correct etymology.[24] In accordance with Pāṇini, Vyasa who wrote the first commentary on the Yoga Sutras,[25] states that yoga means samādhi (concentration).[26]

>>So we have a joining or attachment and concentration. It almost suggests a paranormal contact for concentration, enlightenment, or even making contact with spirits or ascended masters or some such nonsense. But if we take it in a more gentle way, it is mental concentration and focus along with an addition. What addition? It is not clear. So we will try to understand what is practiced today for more answers.<<

Goal of Yoga

According to David Gordon White, from the 5th century CE onward, the core principles of "yoga" were more or less in place, and variations of these principles developed in various forms over time:[29]

  1. Yoga as an analysis of perception and cognition; illustration of this principle is found in Hindu texts such as the Bhagavad Gita and Yogasutras, as well as a number of Buddhist Mahāyāna works;[30]
  2. Yoga as the rising and expansion of consciousness; these are discussed in sources such as Hinduism Epic Mahābhārata, Jainism Praśamaratiprakarana;[31]
  3. Yoga as a path to omniscience; examples are found in Hinduism Nyaya and Vaisesika school texts as well as Buddhism Mādhyamaka texts, but in different ways;[32]
  4. Yoga as a technique for entering into other bodies, generating multiple bodies, and the attainment of other supernatural accomplishments; these are described in Tantric literature of Hinduism and Buddhism, as well as the Buddhist Sāmaaphalasutta;[33]

White clarifies that the last principle relates to legendary goals of "yogi practice", different from practical goals of "yoga practice," as they are viewed in South Asian thought and practice since the beginning of the Common Era, in the various Hindu, Buddhist, and Jain philosophical schools.[34]

>>The problem I have with yoga is its undefined character. What is a rising and expanding "consciousness." Those are big loaded words that could mean almost anything and that is what bothers me. To me, a greater consciousness is a greater perception of truth, reality, and understanding of the world and life. Perhaps no. 1 is suggesting this. Those all depend upon thinking, observation, and analysis. But a greater consciousness could mean to some, connecting with other unspecified beings, opening a door to demonic contact and even possession.

But the impression I often get of yoga as practiced, it to empty the mind, and sink down into a deeper part of the brain, where feelings and emotions reside. This is not such a good thing if one is trying to know and understand more. What is the goal of meditation?<<

From Wikipedia: Omniscience /ɒmˈnɪʃəns/,[1] mainly in religion, is the capacity to know everything that there is to know. In particular, Hinduism and the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) believe that there is a divine being who is omniscient. An omniscient point-of-view, in writing, is to know everything that can be known about a character, including past history, thoughts, feelings, etc. In Latin, omnis means "all" and sciens means "knowing".

>>On no. 3: Such all knowing would not be possible without God or spirits. If you do not ask for the right spirit, namely Jehovah or his son Jesus, then you might get a demon instead. I would avoid that.

No. 4 is the BIG concern. We are talking mystical supernatural stuff. This is not good at all, from a Christians perspective. The traditional or "legendary goals" of yoga practice were clearly the supernatural and communion with the gods or spirits as I see it. A more practical form is said to have emerged in the Common Era, 1 AD onward. But I would not be so sure of the difference or changes. Even if one practices something unrelated to the Pre AD form, there is that tie and tradition to the earlier. Is Christmas no longer pagan, if one observed it for harmless reasons?

I have argued that Xmas can be observed in limited aspects without invoking paganism. But one could easily reason that to yield to it in any way is a compromise with its long held origin. I'll stay with the former, but one is not necessarily wrong in avoiding Xmas entirely. I don't bother with it at all. I detest it. But I condemn no one who gives their kids presents on Xmas. Lights and decorations are not bad in themselves. But I would try to avoid the better part of its trappings, including spending a lot money on gifts. Keep the gift giving on the modest side.

So if Yoga is practiced more for exercise or stretching, that might be fine. but the meditation part does concern me. If you open yourself up to some world wide consciousness or some crap like that, I would be very concerned. Such consciousness may very well be an open invitation to demons. If you are joining some kind of "collective" consciousness, then demons do have the right to sit in or join in. That is absolutely wrong. S

o there is concern if not grave danger here. Lets look a little further into the matter.<<

Buddhist meditation encompasses a variety of meditation techniques that aim to develop mindfulness, concentration, supramundane powers, tranquility, and insight.

Yoga is considered as a philosophical school in Hinduism.[38] Yoga, in this context, is one of the six āstika schools of Hinduism (those which accept the Vedas as source of knowledge).[39][40]

>>The Buddhist form is a no no. Supramundane relates to the supernatural. The Hindu form on the other hand, is pagan, as the Vedas is the Bible of that philosophy/religion.<<

Hatha yoga

Hatha yoga, also called hatha vidyā (हठविद्या), is a kind of yoga focusing on physical and mental strength building exercises and postures described primarily in three texts of Hinduism:[49][50][51]

  1. Hatha Yoga Pradipika, Svātmārāma (15th century)
  2. Shiva Samhita, author unknown (1500 C.E [52] or late 17th century)
  3. Gheranda Samhita by Gheranda (late 17th century)

Many scholars also include the preceding Goraksha Samhita authored by Gorakshanath of the 11th century in the above list.[49] Gorakshanath is widely considered to have been responsible for popularizing hatha yoga as we know it today.[53][54][55]

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Truth1 >>> This one  (Hatha yoga) "seems" to be OK. Let the buyer beware. In modern countries today, this is probably just fine. But anyone could mix meditation in and depending on their definition or practice of meditation, it might invite demonic trouble. Stretching and strength building are fine. Leave the hocus pocus out, if in doubt.

The philosophy of Kundalini is pure Satanic crap, veiled in Hindu/pagan garb. We can rule that out. But Satan convinced his followers (maybe) that raping a 3 year old boy is just fine since it opens him up to the 3rd eye and Satan. Oh, anything for Satan :-(  Meditation is another way of connecting to some vague greater "collective" consciousness. Make sure your "greater consciousness" is named either Jehovah or Jesus. Prayer is just fine. Other than that, I recommend the Bible as a path to enlightenment.

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Concentration forms of meditation
Concentration forms of meditation
Concentration forms of meditation

Concentration forms of Meditation

In this form of meditation you focus on, and concentrate on, an object of attention. This might be, for example, a visual object such as a burning candle, a statue or a picture; or it could be an auditory object (a sound).

The intention is to control your mind from wandering to other objects of attention such as the thoughts that seem to keep flowing. The goal is that your mind should ultimately settle down to a quiet state without thoughts, just consciousness with no object of attention.

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In this form of meditation you focus on, and concentrate on, an object of attention. This might be, for example, a visual object such as a burning candle, a statue or a picture; or it could be an auditory object (a sound). - See more at:

The above form is not healthy and could even be dangerous. The cortex shuts down and one settles down into the primitive brain with a lowered state of mind. Not good. The intellect is the important function, not a detriment. Mind control programming seeks to shut off the cortex/intellect and put the primitive brain in control. Perfect for lurking demons or hypnotists. Need I say more?

Contemplation types of Meditation

In this category of methods and techniques the mind is encouraged to explore a certain concept, often regarded as spiritual in nature - such as love - or to think about a spiritual entity, or to offer prayers, devotion or supplication. - See more at:

>>Watch out for spiritual entities. Only God or Christ qualify. All others lead to demons. Deeper levels, as pointed out, conflict with having the mind deliberately involved. One must understand that demons and social engineers would love to have you turn off your intellect and go blank so they can program you. Your only defense is an active intellectual mind pondering things. This is the problem with meditation so far.<<

Observation types of Meditation

>>We might call these self-observation types. But these do make use of the intellect to watch and analyze what goes on from within or around. This mindfulness is good. It is used to treat complex PTSD and SRA.<<

Virtually Effortless and Effortless types of Meditation

>>I don't agree with the sound, syllable, the mantra, to attain something unspecified. Again, this causes the brain to drop to lower, less aware levels where less thinking goes on and you are easier to program.<<

>>As it looks to me, the meditator does not engage in thinking or contemplating. Thinking and contemplating should be real goals of any practical useful engaging of the mind. Focusing or aiming a mind and its powers produces useful results. Emptying the mind is a waste of a mind and its abilities.

Now mindfulness is good in that we need to become aware of the sensations of our bodies in order to find out what is going on from within. This is part of psychological healing. Most Yoga meditation involved emptying the mind. Most yoga is crap from that standpoint as I see it. A mind is meant to be developed, filled, used, and enjoyed. It has a purpose which is why God created it. "It" is the very thing that makes us the image of God.<<

Transcendental Meditation (TM)
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The only good source of info I could find on TM is below:

Transcendental Meditation: An Outside Opinion
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The above says it is just a mantra type of meditation. To me, that is no good. It seems to have no real goal but to lower brain function, which can or does bring calm if you want it. I prefer what is known in psychology practice as mindfulness. It is a technique to become aware of what is going on in your body and enabling relaxation so as to get control of you faculties and calm your self so you can be functional. No religion or paranormal or supernatural involved. Mindfulness is a valuable technique for those suffering from traumas, disconnect with their bodies and the like.

Below is the official site for TM, but there is no real practical info on it at all:

In summarizing this whole topic of meditation, I see 2 problems to be avoided. One, dropping mind levels down by lowering cortex (intellectual) function is the opposite of of any good or safe practice. An alert intellect is a protection and benefit, not a curse. One is fully protected when their intellect is aroused and working well. There is a benefit to becoming sensitive to the body and its functioning, particularly in regards to physical sensations. But this does not necessarily have to lower cortex function. In fact, the cortex often is the observer and analyzer of what goes on in the body, if you summon its resources in your mind.

Getting control of all aspects of your mind is a good thing. Becoming aware of you bodily sensations is good. But emptying you mind is stupid. Or blindly opening it up to some collective or supernatural consciousness is an invitation to demons to join together with you in that consciousness. You might not get rid of them and it would violate God's laws against the paranormal in Deuteronomy.

So get rid of any mantras, or alternate consciousness or consciousness beyond your own. Get rid of any pagan associations. Stretching and strengthening are both very good techniques for improved body and mind function and can and should be void of any paranormal, religious, or supernatural or extra-natural crap.

Mindfulness is not really shutting down the cortex-intellect. Mindfulness is blocking out distractions and interference and focusing the mind on what you want instead of letting it race out of control. Mindfulness is developing the strength of controlling mind functions and blocking out fear, anxiety, or reducing them so you can focus on what sensations are present in your body, such as tension spots, or relaxed feelings of certain areas. There is nothing empty about that. Your mind is your guardian and gatekeeper. It always needs to be on duty and functioning. Some Yoga encourages you to put the guard to sleep and open up to anything. Bad move!

There is a lot about Mindfulness in a book I am still reading at this writing. It is a very valuable technique and you can do it without help.

A book: The Body Keeps the Score - Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel Van Der Kolk, M.D. Copyright 2014, recently published and I can not say enough good things about this book. I urge you to get it. Psychology at its very best and most useful. In fact, I would call it the Grand Unified Theory of psychology and the most important psychology book on the market right now.

I bring it up because they have adopted a form of yoga meditation said to be the Hatha type. They got rid of the meditation, they said, and used the body awareness and stretching and strengthening stuff in order to treat complex PTSD, on pages 269-271. I'll quote several sentences to illustrate only very briefly and then comment.

Mindfulnesss is the object and goal of how it is used by Dr. Van Der Kolk. Mindfulness to stay calm and in control. "We do not teach meditation as such, but we do foster mindfulness" . . .to observe what is happening in the body from pose to pose. To quote  patient of his, "Yoga is about looking inward instead of outward and listening to my body." "Your body has things to say."

You will note that rather than exploring an outer consciousness, she looks inward into her body, becoming more aware of the body's feelings and sensations. PTSD victims are often dead to those feelings, having all feeling long ago shut off. Getting the body back thru feeling is one of their goals to begin healing.

So avoiding some vague outside consciousness is important, but seeking inside awareness and "consciousness" is a good and proper thing. Otherwise, I see meditation as a great danger overall.

I also note that Hatha yoga is mentioned ( )  in connection with Kundalini and Siddhis, both pagan concepts. I'd be very weary of those.

A Cult & Yoga Similarities
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From Hampstead Research, Now erased: The Gatekeeper (cult mama) of the site posted:

Anyway, I asked Ella why it is that these cult members practice yoga?

What are they getting out of it? Is it some kind of moving the sexual energy around or something?

And Ella was firm on this:

There is no way, she said, that people who abuse children and eat babies can be true yoga practitioners.

So I wondered what was going on at this yoga teachers class?

Was it real yoga or was it cookery?

You see, active Friends on this yoga teachers Facebook page were/are: alleged cult members Cecilia Cheung, Haidje Rustau, Rebecca Denton and Jacqui Ramraykaand look! honorary alleged cult member Charlotte Langron-Brown has paid her a visit, too.

How cosy!

It may, of course, be that Emma Catto is just a normal yoga teacher but she does seem to have strong cult connections.

Like pottery, yoga seems to be a popular hobby amongst our cult ladies. Again, I wonder why this might be:

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Hampstead Research has now become      There was some good material on it, but the wicked witch (she's totally new age pagan) running it has become very secretive and has eliminated all former posts. Whether any of those come back or not remains to be seen. Many of my posts were deleted so that you could not see that I was a reputable and liked commenter. But when she showed her true self to me in an email (I kept them all, just in case), I ceased to cooperate with her. She went berserk in time, partially due to a few taunts I threw her way that she deleted. They were honest and true, but really stabbed at her ego. She has gotten more strange since. I also saved very important pages to use to show what she really is. Pretty scary stuff. But most followers don't blink because they are blind followers. A big war broke on July 11 and 14 posts which continued to get comments. I saved them all because I guessed she would delete them and never put them back.

She has also lost most of her following now. Credibility is gone, too. Some prominent characters have turned against her in a big way. Jax does not know how to treat people or conduct herself. She likes to rewrite history and lie about it or contradict herself. They get real obvious when they start to contradict all the time. Jehovah's Witnesses were great for that as are most governments and many religions, academics, media, etc. You know the kind, right? Always keep your eyes open. Most of all, Jax hates criticism, especially if it is true.

Now back to the Yoga.

Ella, as she understands yoga, does not believe that such wicked people (my opinion only) can be true yoga practitioners. But whether true or not, they are practicing it and I do, at this point, have serious reservations about the meditation aspects of yoga and its generally pagan origins as well. That so many cult members show up as yoga practitioners would not leave me at ease.

Now, I understand Ella's defense of what she believes and holds true. But that does not mean she has not been deceived. I was one of Jehovah's Witnesses for 10 years and for 5 of those years, I was deceived. I think most of Christianity is deceived. I now hold to a form of Christianity that breaks away from any conventional, traditional, or mainstream Christianity. I think if Ella were to better understand that the Bible forbids any flirting or dealing with the paranormal and why, that maybe she might reconsider some aspects of Yoga, particularly the religious or meditation aspects.

But it seems to me that Satan worshippers flocking to yoga is no surprise since Satan controls the entirety of the paranormal world and practices; and pagan religions, too. I believe it wise for people to recognize how dangerous that paranormal field is. So I hope anyone practicing Yoga might give it more thought at the least. There is no compatibility between God (Jehovah) and Satan. There are only 2 real sides in the spirit world, believe it or not. Good and Evil as represented by Jehovah and Satan. You either choose Jehovah or Satan. Jehovah has since appointed His son, Jesus to handle things now and that is why that name is so well known now. Jesus refers to God now as the Father or Heavenly Father, rather than His early name under Moses (and still valid, but Father and God are more common now).

I bring up Jehovah at times when there is more than one god to distinguish as is the case with pagan gods like those of India and Europe, and the Mid East, too. They all have identifying names and so I use Jehovah to identify the God of the Bible, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Moses, and last but not least, Jesus the Messiah and son of God.

If you reject God's son, Jesus, then the only other choice is Satan. All other religions and gods are the products of Satan and his fellow rebel spirits, known commonly as demons. So all pagan religions all lead back to Satan. Any religious or ceremonial aspects that invoke the paranormal in some way, lead to Satan. The choice is up to you, the reader.

Kundalini Awakening
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Kundalini awakening is probably the most common type of spiritual emergency. The Spiritual Emergence Network Newsletter reported that 24% of their hotline calls concerned kundalini awakening experiences. [1] In the Hindu tradition, kundalini is spiritual energy presumed to reside at the base of the spine. When it is awakened, it rises like a serpent up the spine, and opens the chakra psychic centers situated along the spine from the tailbone to the top of the head.

As each chakra opens, new levels of consciousness are revealed. Since the consciousness of most people is fairly restricted, the opening of the chakras is accompanied by consciousness expansion and purification of the limitations or impurities that correspond to each chakra.
(Brant Cortright, Ph.D., Psychotherapy and Spirit, p. 161)

It is associated with physical symptoms including:

>>Sounds very similar to demonic possession.<<

Kundalini arousal most commonly occurs as an unintentional side-effect of yoga, meditation, chi kung or other intensive spiritual, particularly meditative, practices. Some theorists include psychotherapy, giving birth, unrequited love, celibacy, deep sorrow, high fever, and drug intoxication to also be triggers, and some believe kundalini awakening can occur spontaneously without apparent cause.

Bonnie Greenwell, Ph.D., is a transpersonal therapist whose work focuses on kundalini awakening problems. I concur with her view that the term kundalini is most applicable to problems specifically associated with meditative practices. When Dr. Greenwell was queried about a case which included symptoms such as shaking at night, which can occur in kundalini awakening, she responded,

If the person had presented me with a description of an awakening experience, if he did exercises such as meditation, yoga, or a martial art regularly, or if he experienced strong meditative states where he went beyond concentration into stillness or a sense of unity, then I would be more likely to consider it Kundalini.

>>You'll note her primary suspect for "kundalini awakening problems" are the yoga/meditation connection, perhaps the meditation in particular.<<

The DSM-IV, in Appendix I, includes "qi-gong psychotic reaction," which is similar to kundalini awakening. (qi-gong or chi Kung is an ancient Chinese moving meditative practice).      Meditation and yoga have also been associated with problematic experiences of non ordinary consciousness      (see Lee Sannela, The Kundalini Experience: Psychosis or Transcendence?).

Stuart Sovatsky, PhD Director of the Kundalini Clinic, notes,

That some problems arise as a result of the most auspicious of spiritual experiences, long documented in diverse religions, must, in such cases, also be considered.
(Word from the Soul:
Time, East/West Spirituality, and Psychotherapeutic Narrative)

Unlike those suffering from psychosis, individuals experiencing kundalini are,

typically much more objective about their condition, communicate and cooperate well, show interest in sharing their experiences with open-minded people, and seldom act out. (Stanislav and Christina Grof, Spiritual Emergency: When Personal Transformation Becomes a Crisis)


Kundalini      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

For other uses, see Kundalini (disambiguation).

Kundalini (Sanskrit kuṇḍalinī, कुण्डलिनी, About this sound pronunciation , "coiled one"), in yogic theory, is a primal energy, or shakti, located at the base of the spine. Different spiritual traditions teach methods of "awakening" kundalini for the purpose of reaching spiritual enlightenment.[1] The Yoga Upanishads describe Kundalini as lying "coiled" at the base of the spine, represented as either a goddess or sleeping serpent waiting to be awakened. In modern commentaries, Kundalini has been called an unconscious, instinctive or libidinal force, [2][3][4] or "mother energy or intelligence of complete maturation".[5]

Kundalini awakening is said to result in deep meditation, enlightenment and bliss.[6] This awakening involves the Kundalini physically moving up the central channel to reach within the Sahasrara Chakra at the top of the head. Many systems of yoga focus on the awakening of Kundalini through meditation, pranayama breathing, the practice of asana and chanting of mantras.[6] In physical terms, one commonly reports the Kundalini experience to be a feeling of electric current running along the spine.[7][8][9]


The concept of Kundalini is mentioned in Upanishads (9th century BCE - 3rd century BCE).[10] The Sanskrit adjective kuṇḍalin means "circular, annular". It does occur as a noun for "a snake" (in the sense "coiled", as in "forming ringlets") in the 12th-century Rajatarangini chronicle (I.2). Kuṇḍa, a noun with the meaning "bowl, water-pot" is found as the name of a Naga in Mahabharata 1.4828. The 8th-century Tantrasadbhava Tantra uses the term kundalī ("ring, bracelet; coil (of a rope)").[11][clarification needed]

The use of kuṇḍalī as a name of Durga or of a Shakti appears as a technical term in Tantrism and Shaktism as early as c. the 11th century, in the Śaradatilaka.[12] It is adopted as kuṇḍalniī as a technical term into Hatha yoga in the 15th century and becomes widely used in the Yoga Upanishads by the 16th century. Eknath Easwaran has paraphrased the term as "the coiled power," a force which ordinarily rests at the base of the spine, described as being "coiled there like a serpent".[13] The phrase serpent power was coined by Sir John Woodroffe, who published his translation of two 16th-century treatises on laya yoga (Kundalini yoga) in 1919 under this title.


Kundalini is described as a sleeping, dormant potential force in the human organism.[14] It is one of the components of an esoteric description of the "subtle body", which consists of nadis (energy channels), chakras (psychic centres), prana (subtle energy), and bindu (drops of essence).

Kundalini is described as being coiled up at the base of the spine. The description of the location can vary slightly, from the rectum to the navel.[15] Kundalini is said to reside in the triangular shaped sacrum bone in three and a half coils.[16]

Kundalini has been described as "a residual power of pure desire" by Nirmala Srivastava[16] and "a huge volume of energy" that is latent within a person by Jaggi Vasudev.[17]

Kundalini awakening

Kundalini can be awakened by shaktipatspiritual transmission by a Guru or teacheror by spiritual practices such as yoga or meditation. Sometimes Kundalini reportedly awakens spontaneously as the result of physical or psychological trauma, or even for no apparent reason. When awakened, Kundalini is said to rise up from the muladhara chakra through the central nadi, called sushumna, inside or alongside the spine and reaching the top of the head. The progress of Kundalini through the different chakras leads to different levels of awakening and mystical experience, until Kundalini finally reaches the top of the head, Sahasrara or crown chakra, producing an extremely profound mystical experience.[citation needed]

Some writers use the term "Kundalini syndrome" to refer to physical or psychological problems arising from experiences traditionally associated with Kundalini awakening.[18]

Numerous accounts describe the experience of Kundalini awakening.

Ramana Maharshi mentioned that Kundalini is nothing but the natural energy of the Self, where Self is the universal consciousness (Paramatma) present in every being, and that the individual mind of thoughts cloaks this natural energy from unadulterated expression. Advaita teaches self-realization, enlightenment, God-consciousness, and nirvana. But, initial Kundalini awakening is just the beginning of actual spiritual experience. Self-inquiry meditation is considered a very natural and simple means of reaching this goal.[19]

Swami Vivekananda described Kundalini briefly in London during his lectures on Raja Yoga as follows:

According to the Yogis, there are two nerve currents in the spinal column, called Pingal and Id, and a hollow canal called Sushumn running through the spinal cord. At the lower end of the hollow canal is what the Yogis call the "Lotus of the Kundalini". They describe it as triangular in form in which, in the symbolical language of the Yogis, there is a power called the Kundalini, coiled up. When that Kundalini awakes, it tries to force a passage through this hollow canal, and as it rises step by step, as it were, layer after layer of the mind becomes open and all the different visions and wonderful powers come to the Yogi. When it reaches the brain, the Yogi is perfectly detached from the body and mind; the soul finds itself free. We know that the spinal cord is composed in a peculiar manner. If we take the figure eight horizontally (∞) there are two parts which are connected in the middle. Suppose you add eight after eight, piled one on top of the other, that will represent the spinal cord. The left is the Ida, the right Pingala, and that hollow canal which runs through the centre of the spinal cord is the Sushumna. Where the spinal cord ends in some of the lumbar vertebrae, a fine fibre issues downwards, and the canal runs up even within that fibre, only much finer. The canal is closed at the lower end, which is situated near what is called the sacral plexus, which, according to modern physiology, is triangular in form. The different plexuses that have their centres in the spinal canal can very well stand for the different "lotuses" of the Yogi.[20]


Kundalini can also awaken spontaneously, for no obvious reason or triggered by intense personal experiences such as accidents, near death experiences, childbirth, emotional trauma, extreme mental stress, and so on. Some sources attribute spontaneous awakenings to the "grace of God", or possibly to spiritual practice in past lives.[22]

A spontaneous awakening in one who is unprepared or without the assistance of a good teacher can result in an experience which has been termed as "Kundalini crisis", "spiritual emergency" or "Kundalini syndrome". The symptoms are said to resemble those of Kundalini awakening but are experienced as unpleasant, overwhelming or out of control. Unpleasant side effects are said to occur when the practitioner has not approached Kundalini with due respect and in a narrow egotistical manner. Kundalini has been described as "a highly creative intelligence which dwarfs our own." Kundalini awakening therefore requires surrender; it is not an energy which can be manipulated by the ego.[22]

>>Pay close attention to the boldface just above, regarding a highly creative intelligence which dwarfs our own! Who could that be? Well, its pagan Indian philosophy so it can only be Satan or His demon buddies. And note that it requires surrender. That is to say, submission to "it." Submit to the devil. Nasty stuff! All Pagan stuff is!<<


The spiritual teacher Meher Baba emphasized the need for a master when actively trying to awaken Kundalini:

Kundalini is a latent power in the higher body. When awakened it pierces through six chakras or functional centres and activates them. Without a master, awakening of the kundalini cannot take any one very far on the Path; and such indiscriminate or premature awakening is fraught with dangers of self-deception as well as misuse of powers. The kundalini enables man consciously to cross the lower planes and it ultimately merges into the universal cosmic power of which it is a part, and which also is at times described as kundalini ... The important point is that the awakened kundalini is helpful only up to a certain degree, after which it cannot ensure further progress. It cannot dispense with the need for the grace of a Perfect Master.[26]

Physical and psychological effects

Physical effects are believed to be a sign of Kundalini awakening by some,[29] but described as unwanted side effects pointing to a problem rather than progress by others.[27] The following are either common signs of an awakened Kundalini or symptoms of a problem associated with an awakening Kundalini (commonly referred to as Kundalini syndrome):

Reports about the Sahaja Yoga technique of Kundalini awakening state that the practice can result in a cool breeze felt on the fingertips as well as on the fontanel bone area.[16][30] One study has measured a drop in temperature on the palms of the hands resulting from this technique.[29]


Let me summarize! Kundalini can cause breakdowns, "mentally." It is pagan dangerous stuff. I believe that dormant force referred to is seeking out the paranormal or supernatural experience.

Now the base of the spine is said to be the point stimulated by anal penetration of a young boy, causing the awakening of the 3rd eye, the pineal gland in the brain, where spiritual experiences are said to originate. So anal rape of young boys is supposed to make them more prepared for the "ascendance" or awakening of the "next level," the spiritual plane. It really just enables demonic possession. One Christian preacher says demons are attached to a boy if anal rape rituals are performed in a cult, particularly around 3 years of age.

You only have to note the problems that arise with an awakening. It is basically a mental breakdown. Some (if not all) types of yoga, can involve chants and chanting. Mind Control Assassin Kathleen Sullivan relates how chanting is used in mind control as well as religion and it basically abandons the cortex/intellect and causes one to be susceptible to hypnosis. All thought ceases.

The fruits of these theories and ideas are not good. They are Satanic/Pagan. But anal rape of the very young is said to stimulate the nerves (and the Kundalini) at the base of the spine and open up the 3rd eye, as they call it. The 3rd eye is the one that is said to open up to the paranormal, a place we should be staying far from as this is the province of demons, granted (allowed) by God as part of the challenge between Satan and God.

But Now I suggest that this is all nonsense about 3rd eyes and ascending to another plane are lies from the devil. He wants you to "get pagan" and allow demons to infest you, perhaps. As well, it is very traumatizing to young children and that begins their transformation from innocence to evil, one step at a time, over and over and over again. So anal rape, which has the appearance of being good from a cult standpoint, by awakening kids to the spiritual world, that is, the demon world, it is really just to traumatize them enough so that they become broken and mean. Of course, demons might also get involved since they have that right if invoked. That would be another issue.

My advice? Get rid of anything to do with Satan, demons, paganism, Hindu nonsense, including various types of yoga/meditation. None of these are compatible with the Bible. But anal rape is not a good thing, obviously. But when cultists hear a kid scream when raped anally, they can imagine they are helping the child to become awakened and ready for the "next step" in a spiritual progression to becoming enlightened ascended masters. Total BS and lies, and I am sure they know it, too. They use that as public propaganda to excuse their sick brutality in breaking the human spirit in their kids.

Singer on Meditation
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I got Margaret Thaler Singer's book, "Cults in Our Midst," in January 2016, due to its relevance brought up in another book, "Ritual Abuse in the Twenty-First Century," as that book brought up her dealing with cults in research, and how government was covering up for cults to some degree, it appeared. I was intrigued and ordered the book immediately and never put it down, so to speak. Parts of it will be in other articles, but for this article, her info on Meditation was fascinating and I thought it was important that Christians who want to avoid spiritual harm be aware of the dangers of Meditation.

I offer this under the Fair Use clause of the Copyright Act. There is no profit ever made by me on this site or anywhere with this. It is of vital important to public safety and well being on several counts. Sadly, M. Singer is no longer alive to see her work appreciated, published in 1996, now 20 years later. But appreciated it is!

So I start with her chapter:  page 137   PHYSIOLOGICAL PERSUASION TECHNIQUES
>>my comments will be in this form<<

Relaxation-Induced Anxiety

It has been known in the professional literature for some time that not everyone responds well to closed-eye relaxation techniques or to mantra meditation, in which the meditator repeats an incantation. Some individuals find these procedures relaxing and welcome, but a noticeable number experience discomfort and distress. Even ancient literature on mantra meditation warns of the need for the teacher to monitor learners and help them avoid difficulties, and those teaching mantra meditation and other closed-eye techniques today have also learned from experience that many meditators experience some distressing responses. Instead of feeling relaxed, some feel increased tension, break out in perspiration, find their hearts racing, or become distressingly aware of many aspects of their body.

>>Singer reveals some skeletons in the closet concerning meditation. In professional sources and ancient ones, too. We do not normally hear of talk like this. That is why she wrote a book on such things, bless her heart.<<

In recent years, it has been in vogue to speak of the stress of life and how to reduce it. Many different cultic groups have offered meditation as a cure-all for stress, and have done a real Madison Avenue packaging of the typical bodily responses found in a number of people when they close their eyes and attempt empty-mind meditation. The cult groups call this unstressing and reframe any


distress it causes as a necessary and positive response. This strategy allows the leader to urge the meditator to keep on meditating and to blame her or him for having so much inner stress or for not doing the process correctly or often enough.

>>In simple words, she is saying there is a lot of false hype and BS and that advocates of this ignore the significant negative effects many experience. Its a dirty little secret.<<

Only in the last few years have these uncomfortable responses been studied as a phenomenon, termed relaxation-induced anxiety (RIA) by researchers. Ethical instructors of meditation, such as licensed psychologists or psychiatrists who use it as a therapeutic technique or non-cultic meditation instructors who teach meditation as a relaxation technique, will explain these uncomfortable responses to see if knowledge helps to alleviate the response, or they may drop the procedures producing the responses and substitute others that produce less discomfort.

RIA symptoms fall into three clusters. The first includes various distressing sensations. The meditator feels either lighter and floating or heavy and sinking. His or her body may seem to change size or orientation. Some people feel hot or cold; some report tingling and numbness; and others experience visual, auditory, taste, and smell sensations. Scientists think some of these symptoms reflect an increased dominance of the parasympathetic nervous system during relaxation, and result from blood vessel dilation and the feelings of warmth and heaviness that ensue.

>>As we read earlier, these are most of the symptoms of a Kundalini Awakening. Why the similarities of the two? I say its because both are caused by demons. Researchers have tried to avoid techniques that seem to aggravate, but I do not know of anything else in psychology that evokes such a wide spectrum response in such odd ways. The symptoms seem demonic to me.

Regardless, the practice seems to produce a number of bad effects. Enough to make one pause, whether caused by demons or not. And also, scientists have speculated about what is going on, but in truth, they do not know. They are just guessing. Me thinks they ought to ditch meditation as an old wives tale.<<

The second cluster of responses contains physiological-behavioral activity that is either motoric, that is, stemming from the musclesjerks, tics, spasms, twitches, and restlessness for exampleor that arises from bursts of sympathetic nervous system activityracing heart or sweaty palms for example.

The third cluster includes abrupt and disturbing ideas and emotional states that seem primitive (just as dream contents may for example) and that intrude into the alleged state of relaxation. Sadness, rage, joy, or sexual feelings burst into the meditator's awareness, much to his or her distress.

>>Look at the wide range of things that can happen by "meditation" as it is taught in cults, I gather. These do not sound good. Those teaching or guiding make excuses for it and even blame the ones instructed. How convenient. I ask, could it be that these guides know where meditation is really going and what is behind it?

Is it possible that demons are behind much of this? Could it be that cult leaders were deliberately chosen and sent forth? Is it an accident that nearly all cult leaders and sociopaths and psychopaths prone to violence and/or abuse of people? Pull back and look at the totality of circumstances and its hard tno to conclude that this all came about quite deliberately. Maybe they were doing some experimenting as well.

That a good deal of this was going on in California and the west also is interesting. It all looks like patterns and trends. Nothing random about it. and part of it seems to be this meditation that not only is bothersome, but maybe very disruptive of human mind. Especially so if demons are also involve due to meditation being really, an open invitation to the spirit world.<<

These predictable bodily responses are no doubt what are going on when meditators complain of odd and disconcerting effects. I have interviewed a number of former meditation cult members who 


supervised the meditation of newer members. When the newcomers complained about these distressing sensations, the supervisors were taught to assure the members that these were "unstressings" and that the cure was to meditate longer and more often. Many of these supervisors were themselves suffering from the same sensations.

>>In  other words, tell them everything is OK and nothing to worry about. Most on this coming. There is a lot to worry about. Be Afraid! Be Very Afraid!<<

These five major categories of activitieshyperventilation, repetitive motions, changes in diet and in sleep and stress levels, body manipulations, and relaxation-induced anxietyare experiences that are known to produce certain physiological and psychological effects. An experienced mind manipulator can interpret these expected human responses to his benefit. He can say that he or his methods in fact produced the effects, and he can name (or reframe) these effects to fit into the philosophy he is promoting. In the reframing process, he can also blame the person who dares to complain if bothered by the induced states.

>>Part of the effectiveness and appeal of the occult, the supernatural, the paranormal, pagan religion and rituals, are that they do produce a number of results and make people think something happened. But I say the appeal is strong because this is more than just hyperventilation or some damn thing like that. A scientific mind like that of Singer, would find it very hard to believe that real spirit entities could be any part of this.

And maybe this is the problem. When supernatural things happen or are reported, the scientist or academic refuses to believe what they see and hear. They are in denial. But these manifestations are evidence and the proper scientific method does not allow evidence/data to be ignored or thrown away. Or to brush it off. A proper investigator such as Harvard's John Mack was, does not rule out a violation of his beliefs. He is willing to reconsider anything as a proper investigator. To lock one's self into a frame of reference, a context, or a paradigm, is to ignore there might be something outside that frame of reference. This is the major failing of Academia and Science.<<

In the remainder of this chapter, I will illustrate the use of some of these techniques and their reframing by various meditation groups, and describe some meditators who suffered severe after effects.

Meditation May Not Always Be Good for You
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There are many kinds of meditation being promoted by various individuals, groups, and cults. In a recent copy of a California free newspaper, I counted advertisements for at least forty different meditation groups and courses, a portion of which were recognizable cultic groups.

>>Here is another problem. With so many different kinds of meditation out there, what causes what can not be said for sure. Distinctions are often not make. Everything is lumped together. Bottom line is, be very weary of any meditation that seeks to open up to or blend with another state of consciousness or another "outside" level of consciousness such as a "collective" consciousness or astral projection or  remote viewing any anything outside of your skull and what is in your own mind. That's a start.<<

Like many cultic groups, meditation cults have varying degrees of membership and commitment, which become known to members only as time goes on. Those who sample only the beginning course may have little or no knowledge of what a long-term association may entail. They don't know that they will be approached


to purchase courses in how to levitate and fly, to do astral self-projection, perhaps even to become celibate monks. Neither are they informed that a number of persons have had bad results from participation in the behaviors and exercises advocated by the group. Similarly, they are not told that the group is a religious movement. One former devotee of a large group was told by trainers at the start that what was being taught was a simple, effortless technique for releasing stress with no religious implications, but, says the ex-member, "I was effectively made into a Hindu believer by the time I was finished with my training nine and half years later."

>>Above is a good example. The group lied and said this was not a religion. I see this done all the time by New Agers and their Kundalini BS. But it did end up being a religion, didn't it. A lot of meditation is of religions or supernatural origin. These are products of Satan for those who believe Satan is real, such as myself. Some psychologists have adopted some aspects of yoga or meditation but have eliminated other parts that do not seem relevant or needed. So be awake and be aware.

Most cults, as far as I am concerned, will always have some sort of religious connotations or influence, as I usually see new age type things in all of these. One, that there is a leader, guide, or prophet or the like in communion with some god or spirit or essence. I really tend to think the goal of most if not all of them is just to being them under Satan's influence.<<

By the mid 1970s, more than one million persons in the United States reportedly purchased one of the more popular introductory courses offered by one group. Since then, approximately another million in the United States and three to four million worldwide are reported to have taken this introductory course.

An entire volume could be written about the multitude of courses meditators may be urged to purchase, including seminars overseas and courses at universities and institutes around the country. Those who buy advanced courses are expected to meditate for much longer periods than novices. Each day, hours of meditation combined with prolonged hyperventilation are followed by the viewing of repetitive soporific videotapes, usually of the guru or swami lecturing, while the meditators are isolated from outside contacts and from variety in their experiences. In some groups, courses can cost from $3,000 to $4,000 each. Some former members of one group stated that they worked for the organization full-time for a year with no pay in return for the "flying course."

>>Singer's warning here is appropriate. Besides invoking Satan, Cults are about making money. They want your money and they want everyone's money and as much money as they can get. Cults are about enslaving minds and bodies. This enable leaders to harness those slaves and have them make the leaders money. All slavery is about money or sex. And sex usually leads to money as well. More than anything else, Cults are about slavery.<<

Individuals who purchase a group's initial course usually have no idea what may come into their lives in the way of financial costs or time commitments, nor any inkling of the changes to expect in their relationships with family and friends if they continue in the program. Neither do they know beforehand about the impacts on their thinking and emotionsnot all for the better.

Many meditation cult adherents are urged by their leaders to move in with other meditators. In one group, they are told that if


large enough numbers of meditators congregate, their meditating could influence the weather or reduce crime. In some groups, they are told that by becoming physically more distant from non-meditators they'll be protected from those whose lower levels of consciousness awareness might rub off on the meditators. Outsiders are regarded as lower-status beings whose presence could threaten a meditator's condition, and therefore the meditator is encouraged to separate from family and non-meditating friends.

>>Note very carefully the two above bold face lines. Meditation is said to "influence" weather, crime, or protect from other people's "consciousness awareness." These are all outside of the skull brain of yourself. That you join yourself to Satan's lies or believe you are going outside your own mind, you are inviting trouble and leaving the door to your mind and thoughts open to the devil, Satan. Do not do that if you know what is good for you. Stay in your own head and clean your own brain and thoughts and leave the outside to itself.<<

By the mid 1970s, clinical reports of negative outcomes resulting from various mantra meditation programs began to dot the psychiatric literature. Clinicians reported that some meditators were finding themselves in self-induced altered states, wherein they felt unreal or found their surroundings unreal. Some persons became unemployable because they were unable to control these episodes. Other clinical reports indicated that indiscriminate use of mantra meditation could precipitate more serious psychiatric problems ranging from depression and agitation to psychotic decompensation.

>>I want to take this opportunity to point out the many negative outcomes, but do take note that the outcomes vary quite a bit and that there is no predicting exactly what the outcome is going to be be. For instance, if I smash a finger of mine with a hammer, I can predict the outcome pretty accurately. If I jump off a tall building, I know what the outcome will be.

But when it comes to this meditation, you never quite know what to expect. If you breath heavy and fast, light headedness is what you will get. But much of this does not have predictable results. Its open to a variety of "influences." I am talking about spirits. As well, the psychology of the individual likely has some influence. But the unpredictable nature suggests a sort of tampering with the mind that the person meditating can not control. In fact losing control seems to be the biggest symptom and danger. Even if we rule out demons, losing control, and maybe not getting it back is serious enough to avoid mediation all together, unless you are quite sure about every little thing and aspect about the meditation being taught or explained to you.

Myself, I believe you would wisest avoid avoid meditation entirely as it is something that originated from Hindu paganism and was crafted by the devil to keep you in his control and influence. Stay away from all things pagan or anti-Christian. That would be my advice.<<

Over the years, there has been a great deal of research on meditation practices. In a series of studies, Leon Otis, a psychologist at Stanford Research Institute, pointed out that despite the alleged benefits for all who take up the practice as advertised by one meditation organization, his research proved otherwise. Although we might expect that more dropouts than long-term meditators would claim adverse effects, according to Otis the reverse is true. In fact, the number and severity of complaints are positively related to duration of meditation. Also not supported by research is the notion that initial uncomfortable feelings are transient. Meditators reported continuing adverse effects: they had become "anxious, confused, frustrated, depressed, and/or withdrawn (or more so) since starting [meditation]." These findings are consistent with those of a variety of studies.

>>Did you catch all that? The claimed benefits are lies! Dropouts suffer less than long-term meditators. The more you do it, the worse you get. Hello! And in fact, the problems of meditation do not go away or get better. These findings are consistent. Consistent! Are you smart enough to heed these warnings? Do you get it? What real benefit is there to this crap? Not one single benefit. It all lies and traps and disaster. To me, it spells demons!<<

Another researcher, Canadian professor of psychology Michael Persinger, finds that for some individuals meditation techniques bring on such symptoms of complex partial epilepsy as having


visual abnormalities, hearing voices, feeling vibrations, and experiencing automatic behaviors. Another concern, explored by researchers Michael Murphy and Steven Donovan, is that advanced practitioners rank high in suggestibility, meaning that their physical or mental state is easily influenced by the process of suggestion. Whether they become more suggestible because of participation in meditation practices or are highly suggestible to begin with, a state which might reinforce their continuation of the practice, has not been determined. Either way, this suggestibility puts them at risk of losing personal autonomy.

>>Visual abnormalities were not specified. But Hallucinations could fall into that category. I wish they had been more specific. Hearing voices? Really? Anyone we know? Scary, isn't it? Automatic behaviors are not specified and that ticks me off. What are they hiding? Demonic possession? I would not doubt it! They rank high is suggestibility. Isn't that convenient! That would be good for cult leaders and good for demons, too.<<

When meditators first reported experiencing depersonalization and derealization (feeling removed from one's body or as if one were watching oneself), it was believed that these altered states were connected to actual periods of meditation. Psychiatrists eventually recognized, however, that these were states of involuntary meditation, for want of a better name, that were intruding into the waking consciousness of meditators when they were not deliberately meditating. Unfortunatelyand much to the distress of some meditators"a depersonalized state can become an apparently permanent mode of functioning, [with] the apparent long-term loss of the ability to feel strong emotions, either negative or positive."

>>I can not believe what I am reading. Removed from ones' body? Are you kidding me? And what is involuntary meditation? Are we talking demon possession? If its involuntary, then who is making them do it? The clarification was "for want of a better name." They did not want to say possession. A permanent mode of a depersonalized state. Depersonalized? Could somebody explain that for me? And a long term loss of ability to feel strong emotions.

I do not know of anything in psychology that fits these descriptions. Sounds like some psychologists are covering up demon possession with their non-descript clinical jargon. But this does sound like something in the paranormal or religious field. Its called demon possession. Once they have access to you, they like to keep it. Exorcising demons might be the only real cure but that might require an appeal to God and He might not help unless you agree to do as He says and obey Him forever after. Most don't like those terms. Suit yourself.<<

A number of persons in the United States have brought legal suits for damages allegedly suffered as a consequence of their participation in meditation programs. Settlements to the individuals were made by the organization offering the programs.

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Singer: Meditation Casualties
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The foregoing brief review of the work of several researchers supports my observations based on interviewing or providing therapy to more than seventy persons who had meditated from four to seventeen years in various groups.

These individuals sought help for major psychological symptoms that had emerged during their meditation practice. They wanted explanations for what had happened to them and felt they


needed treatment in order to get their lives going again.

Cognitive difficultiesthat is, problems with thinking and attentionwere rampant, and they were also experiencing major emotional afflictions. They felt these problems were linked to the practices of mantra meditation, overbreathing, and being encouraged to keep on meditating even after reporting negative experiences to group leaders. Some had begun legal cases alleging damages from their years in meditation groups.

>>Holy Crap!!! Major psychological problems! Problems with thinking and attention. Aren't these vitally important aspect of the mind and functioning and personality? How do we function when we can not think well or focus and pay attention. But honestly, how does meditation affect all this without the supernatural being invovled? Let me put it this way, what is it about meditation that causes this? Have professionals been able to fine an answer? NO! No, they have not. And I am not sure they want to go looking, for fear of being confronted by the supernatural. You think about it!

There was the additional mention of "mantra" meditation. This might help some in narrowing down what is going on. Repetitious words and phrases numb the intellect and put it to sleep. We might call this a self-hypnosis technique in that hypnosis also shuts the intellect down and the sub-conscious takes over. But it does not explain the lingering if not permanent impairment of the mind/intellect. Its very hard to get away from the demon aspect.

And the cult leaders like these effects and tell their followers to keep meditating. The followers are too controlled to dare to disobey their leaders. Its a great big trap of the mind. The trick is to never get caught up in it in the first place. Knowledge is power and protection.<<

Predominantly middle-class Caucasians, these former cult members were all over the age of thirty when I saw them. Some had joined a meditation group while in high school or soon after. One person had entered a group at age fourteen and left at thirty-one. None had a history of major mental disorders prior to participation in a meditation group. Some had had family and social trouble typical of their age group at the time, and some had experienced minor depression from disappointments, and so forth, but nothing remarkable. None had a family history of major mental disorders. Some of the former members' families had a few alcoholics or individuals who had suffered personal losses and a resultant depression.

>>There is nothing in the past, prior to cult membership and meditation to blame. So the meditation can be the only real cause of problems experienced after starting it. I often rephrase what is said by others, so that there is another view of it and it reinforces the previous statements without feeling repetitive. Just want to make sure their ideas are thoroughly grasped. I did state this one more clearly than the author, I believe. Two heads are better than one!<<

A few examples will illustrate these former members' range of impairments, some of which remain after many years out of the cultic group.

Blackouts, lack of sensory filters, and anxiety attacks.
"John," age thirty-six, meditated off and on for nine years; during the last two years of that time, he was encouraged to do intensives. Formerly a business executive, now, one year after leaving a meditation-based group, he is living on public funds, having been diagnosed as mentally disabled and incapable of working. He suffers from fainting, blackouts, severe and frequent anxiety attacks, and exhaustion. John feels he no longer has protective barriers for his senses. "There is no way to keep things out from the outside," he complains. "Everything gets in through my senses. They taught me to fear that my body


was filled with odd, bizarre, scary things over which I had no control." Although he is in therapy, he is unable to function if there is any stress in his environment. He stays away from people, takes walks in the woods alone, and rests a lot.

>>To me, "John" suffers from PTSD. As well, his gates in his brain circuits seem broken or burned out. Can he be fixed? PTSD can be treated but whether its truly PTSD or something more unusual, who is to say? Certainly not me. But important to note that he was just fine at one time and was a business executive, a high functioning brain level job. Now he is mentally crippled. How did it all happen? One thing stands out! This was not said to be a cult but just a meditation group. So there does not appear to by anything else to blame. Demons are not something you want to mess with!<<

Fog and space.
"Lisa" was in a meditation group for thirteen years. During nine of those years, she suffered from unique dissociative experiences in which she would "space out." In looking across a room, Lisa would see a waist-high orange fog. In spite of finding herself in this peculiar state, with the interruptions and distractions it presented, she was able to carry on the simple, necessary tasks of daily living. Her level of functioning was poor, however, due to her preoccupation with the fog and to feeling detached and flat.

>>Is orange waist high fog something you read about in psychology normally? Not that I know of. She could do simple every day tasks but still, her level of functioning poor. She started and then after 4 years, she starts to have problems and has so for 9 years. Are you seeing a pattern here? Meditation ruins people. Drugs often do not affect people anywhere near as much. Compulsive sex does not. Is this the best kept secret in psychology? I think it is.<<

Altered states and memory difficulties.
"Rick" joined a meditation group in 1975, at age seventeen, and meditated for eleven years. He experienced his first distressing symptoms at his first advanced course, when overbreathing and yogic exercises were added to his mantra meditation. He described states of euphoria; periods of dissociation, depersonalization, confusion, and irritability; and memory difficulties. When he eventually left the group, he had difficulties with reading, memory, concentration, and focusing; had involuntary body shaking; and experienced frequent episodes of dissociation.

>>His symptoms vary from the other. Isn't that odd? And he dissociates and has involuntary (uncontrollable) body shaking. This one really sounds like demonic influence. Interference with functions of the intellect is always interesting. Most have that, that we have read here.<<

Loss of boundaries.
"Bruno," an architect in his early forties, went to his first extended meditation event at a hotel in another city after a year of doing the initial brief meditations. The out-of-town event was an intense program requiring many hours of meditation, overbreathing, and never being alone. He lost track of time and felt odd and not himself. He finally fled the course after an unsettling experience in his hotel room: "Suddenly I became one with the air conditioner. I just dissolved, and it seemed that when the air conditioner


started up it just took me out of my body. There wasn't any me on the bedI was 'at one' with the motor sounds. It was unspeakable terror. I had dissolved and melded with a motor sound!"

When he told the trainers how distressed he was, they told him "something good is happening" and instructed him to meditate more. After he returned home, he remained anxious, had trouble sleeping, and was very tired for some weeks. Temporary sedative medication prescribed by his physician aided his recovery.

>>Now let me see if I got this right. He's experiencing hallucinations, astral projections, which I don't even believe in as real, and unspeakable fear. Classic demonic episode. After, he remains anxious, troubled, poor sleeping, very tired. If you are not scared (justifiably) by now, you can't be helped. How do you get all this without serious LSD or similar hallucinogens?<<

Inappropriate and unrelated bursts of emotion.
"Tom," age twenty-six, signed up for a course in which he engaged in his first extended meditating. During this meditating, he developed RIA symptoms that continued after the course was over. His worst symptom was feeling sudden surges of intense anger unrelated to anything that was going on. At other timeswhen he was on a bus, streetcar, elevator, escalator, or in a carhe experienced bursts of inappropriate aggressive sexual urges. He said motion was driving him crazy. He described the few minutes of monotony and motion just prior to the sudden bursts of emotion as having the same sensation as a waking dream. For several months, he feared he was losing his mind, and he was becoming phobic about going out alone to public places because he never knew when these episodes would occur.

>>Strange emotional outbursts that made no sense? I do not know what RIA is and could find nothing on the net that rang a bell. Possibly something to do with growth hormone or thyroid dysfunction. Honestly, this sounds so similar to possession or demonic harrassment. If ya figure it out, let me know.<<

Muscle jerking.
"Josh" had spent more than a dozen years in a meditation group, wanting to be a teacher. His major symptommarked head and neck jerking that he could not controldeveloped during and after the group's flying course. The condition was so severe that the organization wouldn't allow Josh to appear in public. After leaving the group, he sought training in a career in which he did not have to deal with the public and his co-workers could be told what caused


the jerking. Currently, his physician has prescribed an anti-seizure medication which Josh reports is very helpful.

>>These symptoms might ordinarily be associated with Tourette's Syndrome.  But with no previous symptoms and then to appear out of nowhere, thanks to meditation, it makes no sense. So embarrassing was this development, that the meditation group would not let Josh appear in public. He now takes anti-seizure meds. What? Are you kidding me? Meditation did this? Show me the medical explanation for all this, please! Truth is, there is none. Meditation is spooky and out of this world. It is demonic. the meds helped but I do not sense a cure. Permanent injury!<<

Long-term emotional flatness.
"June" meditated and took courses for nine years. She had no complaints, but her husband, young adult children, parents, and siblings claimed she had become "depressed, spacey, unenthused, not careful or caring about things." June was emotionally flatthere was little variation in her facial expression, the pitch of her voice remained low and even, and her body and hand movements were minimal when she spoke, no matter what she was talking about. She reported to me that the only problems she had noted from the meditation were that she "lost a lot of time," her eyes "went out of focus," and she felt "stopped" quite often when alone. When asked about feeling stopped, she recalled numerous instances in which she lost an awareness of the passage of time and had a blank mind with no idea what she was supposed to do next. She would be released from that state when family members came home. According to her family, prior to her meditating, June had been a warm and compassionate person, responsive and involved with what was going on, even prone to temper blow-ups. Nothing in her history or responses indicated that she was a schizoid personality. Today, June appears impersonal in social situations and seems to have ceased experiencing and displaying strong emotional feelings, either positive or negative, as a consequence of her prolonged meditation.

>>Complete  and substantial personality changes. Explain that by physical cause if you can! I'd like to see it! To be honesty, the symptoms sound like a lobotomy. But without that, this makes no sense but it is real and undeniable.<<

"Calvin," now forty, began meditation courses at age fifteen and soon wanted to be a teacher with the organization offering the courses. Early in college, he took his first prolonged meditation course, which consisted of yogic exercises followed first by slow overbreathing and then by increased meditation time. He also took a course that included over-breathing as fast as one could, alternately closing one then the other nostril, to be done after yoga exercises and prior to


meditation. He suffered his first complex partial seizure (a form of epileptic seizure) in the fast-breathing program. He left the program, sought a medical diagnosis, and is still on antiseizure medication twenty-five years later. During his seizures (brief periods of loss of contact with what was going on around him) he made jerking, purposeless movements and loud sounds; afterward, he felt confused. His friends reported that during the seizures Calvin didn't seem to hear them and that he lurched and staggered while jerking and grunting loudly.

>>25 years qualifies as a permanent change for which there is no fix. His "seizure" sounds more like a mental disturbance or state of mind. Really, demonic influence or cause is the best I can do. We have so many different reactions in these many cases from the same cause. Not even possible thru physical or medical explanations. Honestly, demonic influence or cause is the only game in town, as I would see it.<<

Visual hallucinations.
"Caryn" meditated for seventeen years. "I saw little creatures with wings during intensive meditation periods," she reported. "They were like my pets. They'd tell me things. I began to not be able to tell who was a person and who was a deva [a Hindu nature spirit]." The leaders in the group praised her and, no matter how distressed these events made her feel, told her to meditate more and longer.

Caryn said she learned how to conceal her fear and confusion because she was terrified of being thrown out of the group. She had affiliated with it at age fourteen and was totally dependent on it. Having been encouraged long ago to break all contact with her family, she had felt she had no place else to go.

>>Of all the cases mentioned, this one has the most obvious mark of demonic involvement. she even recognized the Hindu nature spirit manifestion. she saw it for what it was. The group encourage more. Some friends, huh? Did they know? I'll bet they did!<<

I am not saying that everyone who meditates has problems. I have spoken with many persons who find brief meditation relaxing and who are enthusiastic about their personal quiet time. These persons did not become members of cults, however, nor were they part of tight social groups of meditators in which, no matter how uncomfortable their reactions, they felt socially coerced into continuing the practices or were instructed to do even more meditating and hyperventilation.

>>OK, so not everyone has problems doing this. But do you want to take the chance that it will not happen to you? Wanna gamble when you don't have to? Does that even make sense? Stay the hell away from this stuff. It wreaks of demons. Singer says brief meditation is OK because many did it without a hitch. That's not very comforting at all. These OK people did not become members of cults. I ask, it that enough to be sure and safe? Since Singer was dealing with cults and cult problems, is she sure this never happened with non-cult practitioners.

It may well be that cults were demonic and hence the cause of the problems. I don't have solid answers. No one does. To be safe, I say, stay away from pagan concepts and practices that have pagan origins. This is especially so if you are Christian!<<

The problem arises when, as we see happening today, a number of cultic groups use the rationale that their program of procedures is "good for mankind" and thus can be applied to everyone.

>>I'll go one further. The cults and/or their programs suck and you should avoid them both like the plague, because they really are a plague for many as evidenced by the accounts above.<<


In this milieu, participants who complain that a certain procedure produces a negative effect on them are diverted and shushed. The group accomplishes this diversion by telling these individuals that they should do more, that they're not meditating correctly, and that their complaints are a sign of their "badness." By this time, those with the distressing symptoms are usually dependent on the organization, so they simply curb their expressions of distress for fear of being excluded.

>>Cults silence complaints. But they seem to me to know that these results are not a surprise and they cover up where the meditation is leading and encourage more, not less or cessation. They tell the member/victim that it is all their fault and not the practice. The victim does not have enough self-confidence and trust in themselves to trust their own judgment and experience.<<

In short, among other misdeeds, cultic groups ignore the importance of individual differences. History is replete with occasions on which persons or groups have tried to apply one panacea to all humankind's ills. In our era, we see cultic groups applying their brand of meditation to all takers, the assembly-line approach to meditation.

>>I have a problem with Singer just so easily dismissing these serious problems that can happen with meditation that she can still say its OK for most to do this. She does not understand that the supernatural paranormal world of spirits is real and is dangerous. Her blind and oblivious scientific frame of mind will not let her see the very obvious. That some can get away with doing this and not getting hurt does not mean there is no danger. If you can not predict or be sure of who can and who can not without problems, then you have no business recommending this to anyone.

Lets use another example. If someone says to me, joining that mountain climbing expedition on Mt. Everest could jeopardize your life, should I give that consideration or not? Indeed, many have climbed that mountain and lived. But I will point out that even in recent years with expert knowledge and skill has not prevented people from dying on that mountain, even in very recent times. Should I risk it?

Well, let me say this. What do I gain from doing it and what could I lose from doing it? To be honesty, I can find better things to do with my life. I do not think it wise to ignore the dangers and failures, especially when there is not much, if anything, to gain.

What does meditation really offer cult members or anyone else? Peace of mind? Can I get that thru some other means? If so, then why risk meditation? What is so important about this stupid practice? Just curious! Indeed, peace of mind can come thru many avenues. Just avoid the meditation one. If you still want to go for it, well, you have been duly warned.<<

             For centuries, meditation practices were taught within specific cosmologies of knowledge and beliefs. In contrast to these time-honored traditions, in which teachers watched and guided their pupils so that harmful outcomes could be avoided, meditation today is being sold by mass marketing. As the examples here have shown, there are dangers to individuals in the mass application of a process known to have a range of destabilizing emotional and mental effects. However, as is usual in cults, the cult leader thinks only of himself and his successes (how great it must be to say that millions are practicing "my" meditation technique!) and ignores the detrimental effects on specific followers.

            >>Yet another cop out. In the deep past, it took "professionals" (teachers, gurus, shamans, spirit guides) to guide one thru the treacherous waters. I say, stay the hell out of treacherous waters and find a better way to obtain whatever it is you are looking or searching for or trying to obtain. I recommend, with the greatest admonishment and concern, to stay away from pagan ideas and concepts. The Bible warns against many practices that are dangerous as these allow badly motivated spirits to cause you trouble. Stay out of their way and have nothing to do with them by staying away from their teachings and recommendations. Seriously!!!

Singer and others like her mean well, but their scientific minds are too narrow and blind in a world too obviously filled with paranormal manifestations of all sorts, all over the world and throughout time and history.<<

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Is Meditation Ever Beneficial?
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Often at public lectures I am asked whether short-term meditation is ever beneficial to a person. And my answer goes something like this: if, without surrendering your life to a cult, you sit and do one of the two traditional methods of meditation, yes, that can be very helpful. Through the ages, the first method, empty-mind mantra meditation based on the Hindu tradition, has been useful to many people. 

>>Singer essentially says, "if you sit and do one of the two traditional methods of meditation, yes, that can be very helpful." I say to you, if you sit and do one of the two traditional methods of meditation, you could be taking a very serious risk. She could counter, that on one has ever reported harm from one of the two traditional methods, I first say, which of the two? Is either one OK? Either or just one specific one. Please specify. She has not done so. 2nd, though we have no reports of harm from "light" meditation, that does not mean there have not been any, or that there could not be any.

There is far too much that has not been explained by what has happened to people, that was of serious consequence. Until Singer and others get some answers and explanations for these disasters, I say it would be far more sensible to stay away from any possibility of harm by avoiding these practices completely. You can get peace of mind, to the degree they suggest or experience, without resorting to something not well understood yet, at least not in the scientific realm.<<

The second method, reflective meditation, comes out of


the Judeo-Christian tradition. Here, you sit and reflect as your way of focusing, and this too has brought moments of peace to thousands.

>>She now suggests that 2nd option, which has nothing to do with the meditation promoted by cults or popular meditation practice. This Christian practice is not really described by the popular and currently understood term, "meditation." It is better described as reflection, pondering, analyzing, looking deep within our thoughts and feelings.

It has nothing at all in common with Hindu BS. One does not empty their mind, or repeat mantras or any stupid thing like that. Our searching ourselves and reflecting on our minds and their thoughts, is a normal natural ability of the intellect God gave us. Using that intellect to analyze our thoughts and ideas is more like a practice of psychology or philosophy. So stop calling it meditation and call it what it is, using our heads in their best way possible, which is self analysis.

So Singer does a great injustice to this 2nd method and just causes confusion. God gave us a marvelous mind that enables us rise above animals and reflect in a lesser way, the mind of our God and Creator. In this respect, we are in His image and likeness.<<

Meditation, in itself, is not good or bad. But when a venal person wants to sell you courses and persuade you to turn over your life to him, you must beware. If you end up a slave to a moneymaking power-seeking organization that pays no heed to the real difficulties you may experience as a result of certain practices, that is a bad use of those powerful practices.

>>Singer says: "Meditation, in itself, is not good or bad." That is not true. Until we can say for sure what happened to the harmed people above and how to avoid it and what it was that really happened, then we are in no position to say it is not bad. Potentially, it is bad. Witout further understanding, the least that could be said is to ponder whether it is worth the risk of not, of doing it. I strongly advise you to avoid it. It is my duty to God to do so!<<

Herbert Benson, author of the popular book, The Relaxation Response, says meditation doesn't have to be costlyand you don't need to buy a mantra. Just pick any word. For example, some meditators merely repeat the word "one" and, in so doing, find peace and quiet. Rather than give your life away, simply clear your mind by diverting your thoughts to some simple activity or idea for a moment or two, when you feel like it and free of charge. During any meditation or relaxation experiences, if you feel any mental or physical discomfort, I recommend that you stop and consult a professional.

>>OK, Mr. Benson, answer me this! Is a mantra part of meditation. He would have to reply, yes it is. Then I ask, is this part of a Hindu/pagan tradition? He would have to say, it is! Then I would say, since it is pagan, and meditation as cults do it, then you have no right to say that this meditation does not have to be costly. It might well end up not costly for some, many, or most, but it is no guarantee that it will not cost some something or even end up costing a lot.<<

<<< End of Book quotes

Truth 1 > > >  Beware of false prophets my brothers and sisters. Those who present meditation of the Hindu extraction in a secular way are still just as dangerous as those who might present this as a religious practice of another religion. You have been warned.

If we consider the many harmful results reported many times to doctors and psychologists, well documented, and the inability to determine how or why these results were obtained, we have more than good reason to be very concerned about the entirety of this whole meditation things and its origins AND its associations and attachments.

Medical, psychological, and secular thinking are useless against the paranormal since the paranormal is judged as not possible or real. Therein if their fatal flaw. They blind themselves to the obvious that has taken place over 6000 years and is more alive and well now than ever before.

Today the worship of Satan is at an all time high and it invokes the paranormal all the time and motivates people to commit the worst of atrocities to other human beings and worst of all, to helpless children, who represent the most value and desire to the sick evil practices of Satanists who commit the worst of atrocities upon these children.

So the manifestations of Satan worship, a pagan worship if you will, and its inherent paranormal manifestations that give it such credibility among its followers, are alive and well, and can be seen in many subtle but yet obvious ways. That some choose not to see is a big part of the problem.

The human mind is so powerful and yet that power can blind the very mind that possesses it so that the mind does not see what it does nor want to see, even though it is there to see if we wanted to. Beware of the potential deceptiveness of your own mind. It has blinded many scientists, professionals and academics, and religious leaders, too. It can get you, too, if you're not careful and do not examine your own mind with reflection and analysis and a lot of courage, too.

I also want to make clear that though I do make some criticisms of Singer, these in no way take from her otherwise excellent work, of which I have not found another quite like it. As a whole, her work was excellent and she did us all a great favor with her labors and I, for one, am grateful for her service to humanity.

Lastly, we must always be willing to take a fresh look at things we might have long taken for granted. Meditation has received enormous positive promotion and publicity since the 1960s. I do not believe that is an accident. Those who ultimately rule the world wanted to see mediation open doors to the paranormal from which Satan rules. We live in an unprecedented time of deceit and treachery. What becomes popular always has to be looked are carefully. Too often, it is full of danger and harm if we do not give it proper full consideration. A word to the wise.

And we have to be careful of secular sources, even as we have to pay careful attention to religious sources. Critical thinking is vital to survival in our treacherous age of lies and paranormal influence of malevolent spirit forces.

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